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    YWDA Update!

    We're launching at 20:00 BST on the 1st September at http://ywda.org/

    Get your.. umm... Grape Juice out!

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    Site Review? Umm? How's this a site review?

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    The counter text is a little weak. Young Web Developers Association sounds awful. It's like taking the worst part of web development communities and amassing it all in one place. Maybe not a bad idea if that place is a dark staircase that leads into a dank cellar where a large man wearing leather is weilding a bloody shovel.
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    So you're saying that young web developers stink? I'm 13, take a look at my site. I think it's pretty good anyway...
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    Not too bad for a 15 year old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan Gray
    The counter text is a little weak. Young Web Developers Association sounds awful. It's like taking the worst part of web development communities and amassing it all in one place. Maybe not a bad idea if that place is a dark staircase that leads into a dank cellar where a large man wearing leather is weilding a bloody shovel.
    ...So you think that just because we're younger than you we suck? THIS IS WHY I HATE HTML-FORUMS.

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    Hey, chill guys.

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    ...So you think that just because we're younger than you we suck? THIS IS WHY I HATE HTML-FORUMS.
    No, I'm saying you suck because you blow-up and misunderstand everything. I'm saying that generally when I think about young web developers I associate them with outbursts, anger, bad spelling, bad grammar, and general annoyance.

    I will readily admit that this is not all of them, but the kind to make an age-specific web developers website probably are pretty accurately described by the above.

    Paradox, your name alone betrays your age. The site is decent, I like the general graphic concept, but it helps to make your point if it doesn't send me an error404 page. Nice site though.

    Anyway, I'm thinking of starting the TWDC. That way we can limit discussion to how cool plaid looked on Kurt Cobain and how we hate people who mis-use the phrase Kafka-esque. heh.
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    bring back National Service and enforced chimney sweeping for all under 18s, that's what I say!

    Jesting - glad you guys are getting it together at last, it'll stand you in good stead (not exactly gonna harm your CVs/Resumes)

    Good look with it all.

    I must admit, I've never thought the words young and developers sat comfortably in the same phrase: I would have stuck with young web designers - just my opinion.

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    William Blake:
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    A little black thing in the snow, 
    Crying "weep! weep!" in notes of woe! 
    "Where are thy father and mother? Say!" 
    "They are both gone up to the church to pray. 
    
    "Because I was happy upon the heath, 
    And smiled among the winter's snow, 
    They clothed me in the clothes of death, 
    And taught me to sing the notes of woe. 
    
    "And because I am happy and dance and sing, 
    They think they have done me no injury, 
    And are gone to praise God and his priest and king, 
    Who make up a heaven of our misery."
    Once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken.

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    Hey, take it easy here.

    A bunch of us old-school WA-er's tried launching a youngdevelopers.com when we were like, 12-14 (myself included), and we received a much more positive response. Our aims were to write tutorials geared towards similarly aged "developers", but we were also lazy and never got around to it. Slightly different goals as far as I understand, but still a similar premise. So warm up to it and be encouraging. It's good to get involved at an early age, as long as you don't forget how old you are and still remember to go outside and have fun.

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    old or young...you dont conmpare standards to people who have more experience some people learn easy some hard you do the best you can do..and deal with it. if your still struggling codingforums, friends will allways help you.

    well done for getting this far codingforums.
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    I don't think any one was comparing standards to people. However, the fact still stands that while some of the YDWAers may be talented and mature, the majority of the members will be immature and blow up at the first hint of sarcasm or opinion that disagrees with their beliefs. Trust me, I deal with teenagers year old on a daily basis. Tristian wasn't saying "You're young, therefore you suck" he was saying "You're young, therefore most of you will be immature." That latter is a fair statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan Gray
    I'm saying that generally when I think about young web developers I associate them with outbursts, anger, bad spelling, bad grammar, and general annoyance.
    You sad, sad [censored].

    Watch the language, we do have rules; please be more respectful to other members. -OG
    Last edited by oracleguy; 08-26-2005 at 06:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger56
    You sad, sad [censored].
    I'm confused... Are you trying to prove his point?

    I don't know about "Young Web Developers" myself. It seems too... Specific. It could just as well be "Black Web Developers". Your age should be irrelevant. What's key here is that you're relatively new to the field, and thus "New" or "Beginner" would be better adjectives, I think. You could then provide a site with clearly-written tutorials (as was the goal with the previous attempt at a youth-based site) but the whole "we're young" thing would be a section of a bigger site. Eventually, not too long from now, you won't be "young developers" anymore, and it's just going to be the "Young Web Developers' Association" with a bunch of adults around and the young ones will likely feel alienated. Ya know?
    Last edited by oracleguy; 08-26-2005 at 06:38 AM. Reason: cleaning up rule violoation

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    Good luck guys. I'm happier seeing you do this than to be doing others less-productive things.

    My hat's off to ya'.

    Anyway, I'm probably more of a n00b than you kids, but I'm a whole lot older. I just started doing web development very late in life.

    Mike

    @Tristen: be careful, my friend, wide generalizations will almost always trouble someone.


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