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    Sceptre Custom Homes, Ltd.

    This was not comissioned as an "accessible" site, per se, but I tried my best to make it so anyway. The text can only really be increased two times in Firefox but I added a PHP contrast changer to compensate. What do you guys think? Good, bad... goofs, and plusses. Please let me know.

    http://www.sceptrecustomhomes.com/index.php

    Thank you.
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    Mike Cherim

    PS. The site is effectively complete, but I am awaiting some more content and images from the client and the form sends to me at the moment. I figured it's ready enough for some preliminary reviews. Thanks.

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    since it's 'pretty ready to go" I'll comment on the graphics.
    • I think the body should have a top margin some. Sine the page doesn't go all the way down it looks like it's trying to but can't quite reach the bottom. Giving the body a top margin shoul loose that effect. (my opinoin of course )
    • on the sceptre on the header: loose the right side blackout line. Makes it look flat.
    • not sure about that stock lens flare. hmmm.
    • the right side gradient looks too sharp.
    • the sceptre on the right looks to outlined as well.
    • the bottom sceptre/hammer graphic needs to come over to the right a little. Right now it's right on the side of the page. The sceptre couold lose the right side black edge.
    • The sceptre on the bottom also overlays the teal gradient.


    basically the sceptre gets me if you didn't notice. Since your giving it a shadow, the edge recieving the light shouldn't be out lined. As it's getting the light it should be brighter than the shaded side. By giving it an edge it looses what 3-dimensinality it would have.
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    well, you make fantastic websites, the only thing i dont like about this one is the right hammer and scepter and the solar flare. other than that its very good,

    Edit: add some padding to the form fields

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    I'm not keen at all to, to be frank.

    Really I think it's a big step backwards from the stuff you've shown us perviously.As a design it's ok, though I do have an issue with the drop shadows - but overall I think it just looks far too twee for the type of business and the target audience. I'd expect a a sharper, more technical look.

    Ok, I really didn't enjoy saying that, as I've really liked your other stuff, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    I think the body should have a top margin some. [...]
    I considered that. I wish I knew how to float a whole page vertically. I suppose it can be done. I tried to ensure people with a 1024x768 monitor would grow a third scroll bar (though most pages won't have any... the content is supposed to be short and sweet). My shortest page is on my Firefox browser due to the developer's tool bar. On it I have about 7px until I hit bottom. On MSIE I have about 80px it seems.

    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    on the sceptre on the header: loose the right side blackout line. Makes it look flat.
    Hmm. It had to stand out. I'll take a second look.

    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    not sure about that stock lens flare. hmmm.
    I tried it with and without, but the *with* really made their name look distrinct on the start page. I bounced it off the client and they opted for with.

    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    the right side gradient looks too sharp.
    I'll look at toning it down when I have the image open (for the sceptre... same image... below)

    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    the sceptre on the right looks to outlined as well.
    I *think* I know what you're saying. I'll work on that. Toning and bring closer down that drop shadow might help.

    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    the bottom sceptre/hammer graphic needs to come over to the right a little. Right now it's right on the side of the page. The sceptre couold lose the right side black edge. The sceptre on the bottom also overlays the teal gradient.
    It's supposed to hang off the page a bit. It's too far to the right already as it is. It obscures the "top" link if the text is fully enlarged.


    Quote Originally Posted by harbingerOTV
    basically the sceptre gets me if you didn't notice. Since your giving it a shadow, the edge recieving the light shouldn't be out lined. As it's getting the light it should be brighter than the shaded side. By giving it an edge it looses what 3-dimensinality it would have.
    Noted. I will look and tweak. I see what you're saying, though. It's a fine balance. When I broghten I loose richness. But photos will be added to the site so maybe it'll work out just fine losing some of the impact on the decoration.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger56
    [...]add some padding to the form fields.
    As noted above I'll work on some of the decorations. Doesn't anyone like tacky 80s stuff anymore :-/ Padding has been added. The text has a ntaural pad top and bottom from the leading and line height so I added 2px; to left and right. Now the text looks better in the form fields.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graft-Creative
    I'm not keen at all to, to be frank.

    Really I think it's a big step backwards from the stuff you've shown us perviously.As a design it's ok, though I do have an issue with the drop shadows - but overall I think it just looks far too twee for the type of business and the target audience. I'd expect a a sharper, more technical look.

    Ok, I really didn't enjoy saying that, as I've really liked your other stuff, sorry.

    Kind Regards,
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    That's cool, Gary. I appreciate the feedback anyway. It helps me identify what's hot, and what's not. It gives me future direction. The client totally digs it so that's good. What we'll have to do is see what users, their clients, think. If it tanks on that end I'll re-do it I suppose. Ragarding the technicality of the design for the audience, I have no idea. I did look at other builder sites and noted no common thread. There were some nice but largely inaccessible Flash sites out there, while others looked more like ISP sites. Quite the mix.

    I like it, but I'm a fan of what I call a micro-site. But me, I like all my stuff until I look back at it a few minths down the road :lol:

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    Thanks to everyone for the feedback. It is well received and always helpful.
    Mike

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    phew! Glad you didn't take offence. like I said, it's a nice design, but maybe a design for something else - it's just that - at first glance I can't make head nor tail of what the site is about. I'm thinking: is it a knitting club, something about heraldry, Celtic history? Just doesn't say *Builder* to me.

    The default: layer style>Drop Shadow>75% #000> use global angle> thing annoys me a bit too. real shadows are never any value of black! A bit more subtlety with the shadows might help

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    Hey guys,

    I discussed some of the items brought up during these pre-launch previews. The client has been considering some of them. However, this morning all potential (design) changes went flying out the window.

    You see, first of all the client loves the site a lot, then this morning, almost giddy, they told me they didn't really need to have a thing changed and plan to simply continue throwing content and images my way.

    The reason: Well, they told me to modify the images on the Listings page ( http://www.sceptrecustomhomes.com/ilistings.php ). I won't spoil it by saying why here, but once you see the first image on that page all will be crystal clear.

    Please note, they've had 229 unique visitors and the content isn't done, nor did the site go public yet. So why... well, you'll see.

    Put it this way, I too am quite happy about this.
    Mike


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