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    Exclamation Site review please!

    Can you guys tell me what you think about my website. I know it works in IE and Mozilla, and it doesn't work Netscape. Other than that I don't know. But, here it is:

    http://seducius.port5.com/

    ESPECIALLY THE FORMS!!!

    http://seducius.port5.com/form2.html
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    Well in Apple Safari it looks Safari can't find the server.

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    Can I say ugly? Menu doesn't work in FireFox. Code doesn't validate http://validator.w3.org/check?verbos...ius.port5.com/

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    dude that some sick sh*t
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    It validates now, but I need help making a custom doctype for my frames page. It needs to include framespacing, frameborder, margin, and noresize attributes for framesets. And has anybody tested the forms? They're just e-mail forms and not SSL so I needed to make sure they worked.
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    no, it doesnt validate.
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    I meant it was reading it now, I didn't have a doctype in it before. But I still need to get those few things added and I have no clue what I'm doing with custom doctypes. I did try to make one, but like I said "no clue"... http://seducius.port5.com/custframes.dtd
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    Oh, and by
    dude that some sick sh*t
    do you mean you're gonna thow up because it's so ugly...because that seems to be Nightfires opinion...lol.
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    Custom doctype?!!

    Do you really need a custom doctype to make a frames page work?!! Because that looks to me like a dead-end road... Attributes get deprecated for a reason, you know; mostly because you don't need them. See if you can create a working site with the use of current standards and all the available technologies first, instead of creating your own standards.

    About the site: you layout looks cluttered, confusing, there are way to many things moving, which made me really nervous, the navigation is unclear and has a very high "mystery meat" factor, and all the ad banners and bombardments of pop-ups made sure I won't be coming back any time soon: if something really ruins my mood it's having to intercept six, seven pop-ups after leaving a site.
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    gah!! to many adverts and frames, and the colour scheme isnt very good, perhaps you should redo the whole thing, as for the workyness, i cant see any problems on this colleges old crappy version of IE

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    Ok, I removed the scroll bars from the main frame to put the focus back where it should be...the iframe (I gave it real scroll bars too after trying and trying to figure out how to do that), and I took out the exit popup that was spawning other popups...because frankly, they had a cr@ppy service.

    I do need the custom doctype if I ever want to get it validated. I want the frame feeling, but I don't want those big old ugly borders around them, and that's part of the problem. I need somebody to help me figure out how to make one, not tell me to build my website around standards. How do we get standards if nobody makes them? I'm just trying to mix mine in with the accepted ones.

    As for the color scheme and layout. Color scheme, though pretty out there, is exactly what I'm looking for. I want something that people are gonna think is "some sick sh*t", no matter which way they mean it. It's either gonna have them throwing up because it's so ugly, or they like it. We're talking medieval/fantasy/sci-fi here, is suppose to stick out like a sore thumb and take a lot of boos but it's gonna call in the occasional fan. Layout, I know, is a little clunky. That's part of the reason I wanted a review...so I could tell when (or if) you could find your way around it easily.
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    If you got rid of the frames and got a better menu it would look a lot better
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    Which menu seems to be the problem? And has anybody tried the forms yet...if so that's a problems because they're obviously not working. But try http://seducius.port5.com/form2.html and put "delete" as the subject...unless you actually want a profile on there.
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    Originally posted by sina94
    I do need the custom doctype if I ever want to get it validated.
    What happened to the good ol' Frames DTD...?

    Originally posted by sina94
    I need somebody to help me figure out how to make one, not tell me to build my website around standards. How do we get standards if nobody makes them?
    *CoughW3C?Cough*

    Seriously... you don't need frames. They're inaccessible, they can frustrate the user if he/she's trying to bookmark a certain page, and they really, really blow for SE ranking.

    And like Ronald said, things are deprecated for a reason.

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    Custom doctype useless

    Sorry for missing the glaringly obvious earlieron: I have my dim moments as much as the next guy.
    The point with your doctype is this: it is useless! To my knowledge, no browser currently actually validates a page using the provided doctype. Including a doctype is needed if you want to validate a page using the available validators, and browsers use them to switch between quirks and standards mode, but whatever doctype you specify, a browser will simply render what it knows how to.
    The sole exception I can imagine would be if you'd specify it as an XML application (which I expect you don't), and you can find a browser that can render XML, but you still have to tell it how to render it via some sort of transformation, probably ending up with (X)HTML in the end anyway.

    To make a long story short: the HTML 4.01 specs support frames, so do the XHTML 1.0 / frames specs; stick with one of those. Making up your own standards will help you nothing.
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