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    Site Review for PR Designz

    I wanted my site review to be my 10,000th actual post. So here goes...

    A little about my site. Its been in the making for about a year. Mainly because I hadn't had time to finish it. I tried going for the web 2.0 style. My graphics might be a little big in size but they only have to load once. Any feedback on load times would be great.

    I've tested the site on IE6+, FF2+, and Opera 9. Everything seems to be working okay. The XHTML is valid as well as the CSS. There is a 3 second sound but it will only play once until you delete your cookies in your browser.

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    Congratulations on 10,000 posts.

    I like the way the portfolio page works but one thing that started to get a little old is having the page content fade in when you went to different pages. Maybe speed it up a little at the very least.
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    Yeah I was having doubts about the fade as well. It seemed to take too long sometimes. I removed it all together. Sure it may have looked cool but its the users that I need to worry about.

    Thanks for the review.
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    Hey Aero, congratulations for your 10,000th post. Now I see why you haven’t posted for a while. Must have tickled in your fingers, eh?

    OK, to your site:

    Not bad, not bad. The overall look is nice, clean, and simple - just as Web 2 is meant to be. The colors are used wisely and are used throughout the site which makes it look like one entity. I would use some more sublte gradients, though, for a more Web 2-ish look. I’ve found this great article on that subject.

    When I enter the site this sound comes a little surprising and I don’t know if it is of any use there… I mean it has no special meaning and I wouldn’t see any connection to your “product” or company. A nice example of matching sound is on http://newstoday.com
    And if you’re using a sound and an animation you could connect it a little more (like not just fade the image in but give it some “life”). I’ve seen a site doing this but I can’t remember where it was. They had some kind of water drop effect like when the rings are expanding after you’ve thrown a stone in the water and they played a short matching sound in a way that the vibrations of the sound could have made the image vibrate too.

    Basically for me the intro would work as well if there was no sound.

    To me the fonts in the headlines and menu don’t look very Web 2-ish but that might just be my personal taste. More importantly the Flash headlines aren’t showing up properly in my Fx 2. It might be the Adblocker’s fault… I’m just getting the blocking tab and no headline at all until I click or highlight the text of the headlines.
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    Ah I just noticed it’s flashing for a millisecond after the page has loaded but the fade in of the entire text makes it disappear again and not show up then.

    Other than that the info is structured nicely and I get the message.

    I’m a little lost on the portfolio page. I would expect to have some link to the actual sites you’ve done. It might also be better for your reputation to put the site name. Maybe the site name as link put in a caption of the image on the details view will be a solution for all the things I addessed in this paragraph?

    As to your HTML if I switch off styles I’m also a little lost… No title (comany name as h1?), those two images that shouldn’t be there, and also your form submit buttons are empty without styles…
    Well, OK, it’s your decision as to what audience you wanna address but if I’d be someone professional looking for someone to do some coding work for me I would look if the site was coded properly and use this as first impression.

    Other than that the site looks pretty good.

    Oh, P.S.: I just had a look in Safari, and the headlines didn’t show up either (as they don’t do in iCab). I couldn’t even make them show up…
    It’s working perfectly in Camino, though.
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    Very nice design.

    I looked at it in IE6, FF2 and Opera 9.

    In IE, when changing pages, the section headers (ie: How to get a quote, etc) seem to duplicate themselves several times, just momentarily before the page changes. Not seeing this in FF or Opera.

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    @VIPStephen
    Hmm I guess you must have been looking when the fade was still there. The fade is no longer there.
    As for my submit and reset buttons I put some values in them so when styles are disabled they still make sense. Hmm didn't think about the title thing though it is in the header as a logo. I'll probably put something in the top nav. Does the header text at least show up in Safari?

    @PappaJohn Thanks for the review. I'll see what I can do about the headers duplicating.
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    If your last post was related to mine - I just checked again in IE6 and am still seeing the duplicated section titles. It's only momentary (happens too quickly to grab a screenshot).

    (If it wasn't related to mine - ignore this)

    EDIT: I see - just saw your edits - ignore this
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Aerospace_Eng_ View Post
    Hmm I guess you must have been looking when the fade was still there.
    Yes, I was.

    Quote Originally Posted by _Aerospace_Eng_ View Post
    Hmm didn't think about the title thing though it is in the header as a logo. I'll probably put something in the top nav.
    Ah I see now… yeah, actually you could just use the header image. However, I’d suggest you put some alternative text. In this case you don’t necessarily need the h1.
    But those two big blue images are kinda hiding the actual content (I have to scroll down to see the title), that’s what I was mainly referring to. I feel kinda uncomfortable to criticise you, the king of the forum posters… but since those two images have a purely stylistic purpose they should rather be background images applied through CSS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    Yes, I was.



    Ah I see now… yeah, actually you could just use the header image. However, I’d suggest you put some alternative text. In this case you don’t necessarily need the h1.
    But those two big blue images are kinda hiding the actual content (I have to scroll down to see the title), that’s what I was mainly referring to. I feel kinda uncomfortable to criticise you, the king of the forum posters… but since those two images have a purely stylistic purpose they should rather be background images applied through CSS.
    @VIP Those images have been moved into the stylesheet. They were left there when I was testing different methods just forgot to make them background images. I did put in a title, its not visible for people with styles enabled but it is visible for people without styles enabled. As for the flash header I removed the sound. The way the header works is if its been viewed once then it gets replaced with a normal image.

    @PappaJohn I think I fixed the header duplication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Aerospace_Eng_ View Post
    @PappaJohn I think I fixed the header duplication.
    Yep, all better now.

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    I'm getting that duplicating header problem in IE7 (as of a few seconds before this post), but it seems pretty responsive overall (maybe 1/2 second flipping between pages). But in FF2, although the duplicating header problem isn't there, it seems much slower (towards 4 seconds flipping between About and Home).

    As for the look, I'm no graphic designer so take this for what it's worth, but I felt the contrast between the blue and some of the darker orange areas could have been crisper. It's easiest to see in the Copyright notice on IE7.

    Oh and grats on 10k. That is a lot of grateful people you have helped. :)

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    I don't know if it helps, but i just noticed that the first header (h2) is not duplicated. The second is dup'd twice. The third three times, etc.

    Also I noticed in IE6 I keep getting press ok to keep loading content messages. I have a hacked version of IE6 on my machine so I can run it with IE7 so I'm never quite sure if a regular IE6 version would give the same problem.

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    Blah thought I fixed that. First time using sIFR so working out all of the bugs is time consuming, might update to version 3. As to that click ok message in IE6. Yeah that will happen in a standalone version (not installed normally). I like the gradient on the top nav, I was being lazy and just resized the top nav image to fit the footer. I'll make a seperate graphic for the footer.

    Thanks for the comments.
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    The image popup for the portfolio pages is very good, is that the jQuery Thickbox javaScript??

    Page loading time was fine to be honest, I've seen a few sites load a lot slower than that and this is at work where the connection isn't great so I wouldn't worry about it.

    One little thing I'm not sure about is the way the text is all squished together on the "About" page. You have lots of room to use and everything is tightly packed towards the top of the window. Also in Web 2.0 style I think your headings are a little ott? For example, on the "About" page again the blue headings just seem too much?

    Meh, I like it anyways
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