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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    There is a legal obligation in some countries for business sites to ensure their site is usable for ALL their visitors.
    Now you are watering down the false statement you made earlier and on other websites.

    If you feel you have been defamed or slandered by me labelling you a blatant liar and/or an incompetant fool on other websites (people can make up their own minds) and using copies of your posts as proof then feel free to show some courage for a change and sue me. But when I have issued that challenge to liars in the past they have always run off holding their tails between their legs and I can give you a 100% guarantee you will do the same because I am under no obligation, legal or otherwise, to provide full functionality for javascript disabled browsers in contrast to what you have posted here and elsewhere.

    You are not even remotely qualified to give me legal advice as you have attempted in the past and your "legal advice" is at best total garbage and at worst blatant cowardly lies in my particular circumstances.

    This matter is now out of my hands as I posted earlier
    Last edited by webdev1958; 03-04-2012 at 08:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    The only web site known to have been actually sued for it not working without JavaScript was the US store that settled out of court for a sum believed to be somewhere between 100,000 and 10,000,000.
    To be candid, I do not believe this. Please point me to an authoritative reference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webdev1958 View Post
    Now you are watering down the false statement you made earlier and on other websites.

    If you feel you have been defamed or slandered by me labelling you a blatant liar and/or an incompetant fool on other websites (people can make up their own minds) and using copies of your posts as proof then feel free to show some courage for a change and sue me. But when I have issued that challenge to liars in the past they have always run off holding their tails between their legs and I can give you a 100% guarantee you will do the same because I am under no obligation, legal or otherwise, to provide full functionality for javascript disabled browsers in contrast to what you have posted here and elsewhere.

    You are not even remotely qualified to give me legal advice as you have attempted in the past and your "legal advice" is at best total garbage and at worst blatant cowardly lies in my particular circumstances.

    This matter is now out of my hands as I posted earlier

    I wish to register a public protest at the intemperate language used by webdev1958, who is clearly the reincarnation of the univerally despised and banned member bullant.
    bullant was banned for threatening legal action against a moderator. But he had accumulated many infractions for abusive language before that.
    Anyone who rants on in this manner is in my view close to being as mad as a box of frogs.

    I call on the moderators to get rid of webdev1958. His attitude, language and sheer rudeness mean that he is not a fit and proper person to be a member of the forum.

    If others agree, please use the "Report this post" button and send the mods a suitable short message.
    Last edited by Philip M; 03-04-2012 at 10:00 AM. Reason: Typo

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    What's the issue here?

    If someone tells me lies or lies about me as felgall has, are you saying that I am not allowed to highlight those lies, along with copies of their posts as proof, and expose the people who made them as liars wherever I like?

    If so, then you are in effect condoning allowing members to post lies about other members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    Just consider how much supposed JavaScript you see that contains any of the following long dead code:

    language="javascript"
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    Prompt is not "dead" it's used alot in websites. Isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by webdev1958 View Post
    What's the issue here?

    If someone tells me lies or lies about me as felgall has, are you saying that I am not allowed to highlight those lies, along with copies of their posts as proof, and expose the people who made them as liars wherever I like?

    If so, then you are in effect condoning allowing members to post lies about other members.
    No, because your intention is to "troll" and to the thread you are not providing any useful information, but you are bashing a member who has helped me on many occasions with his coding. If it's wrong what he said then he made a mistake, he is certainly not "incompetent" so just back off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MancunianMacca View Post
    Prompt is not "dead" it's used alot in websites. Isn't it?
    No, not in any website which purports to be professional.

    But I would advise you not to box outside your own (very low) weight band. Otherwise webdev1958 will start to vomit over you as well.
    Last edited by Philip M; 03-04-2012 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    No, not in any website which purports to be professional.

    But I would advise you not to box outside your own (very low) weight band. Otherwise webdev1958 will start to vomit over you as well.
    I don't know what you mean, weight band? Nevermind you added some to get it to make sense.

    And I don't really care for internet trolls. They just ammuse me. They are not really doing anything but showing us they have no life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MancunianMacca View Post
    No, because your intention is to "troll" and to the thread you are not providing any useful information, but you are bashing a member who has helped me on many occasions with his coding. If it's wrong what he said then he made a mistake, he is certainly not "incompetent" so just back off.
    How is a member posting lies about me, like felgall has, not trolling then?

    The "legal advice" felgall has posted to me in the past has been totally false and when challenged to provide evidence supporting his "advice" he has failed to do so on each occasion. He has done it on far too many occasions for me to consider it a "mistake", as you put it, and that is why I eventually passed on his name and contact details to my legal adviser at the ATO for investigation because it is impossible for both felgall and my legal advider to be telling me the truth. Clearly, one of them is lying and since felgall has never backed up his advice with supporting evidence then I am choosing to believe my legal advider is the one telling me the truth, regarding my situation, and hence felgall is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MancunianMacca View Post
    I don't know what you mean, weight band? Nevermind you added some to get it to make sense.

    And I don't really care for internet trolls. They just ammuse me. They are not really doing anything but showing us they have no life.
    Boxers compete in weight bands. A flyweight does not fight with a heavyweight. If he did he might get badly hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webdev1958 View Post
    How is a member posting lies about me, like felgall has, not trolling then?

    The "legal advice" felgall has posted to me in the past has been totally false and when challenged to provide evidence supporting his "advice" he has failed to do so on each occasion. He has done it on far too many occasions for me to consider it a "mistake", as you put it, and that is why I eventually passed on his name and contact details to my legal adviser at the ATO for investigation because it is impossible for both felgall and my legal advider to be telling me the truth. Clearly, one of them is lying and since felgall has never backed up his advice with supporting evidence then I am choosing to believe my legal advider is the one telling me the truth, regarding my situation, and hence felgall is not.
    Well i'm just dropping out now but it's only a forum man. The people on here are helping people like me who are new to programming so just try not to get hung up on stuff like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MancunianMacca View Post
    Well i'm just dropping out now but it's only a forum man. The people on here are helping people like me who are new to programming so just try not to get hung up on stuff like this.
    No problem. Had he just apologised when I first caught him out, it would have been the end of the matter. But he has gone on to do it on far too many occasions for me to think it's not a deliberate action on his part and hence I eventually went down the legal route and as I said before, it's now out my hands but I will continue to highlight false statements about me wherever I think it is appropriate to do so

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    MancunianMacca - You are coming to the party a little late in the day. wevdev1958 is the screen name of a person who has been banned from this forum (under different names) on several occasions. He pours out angry bile, uses the word "liar" and "lies" with gay abandon, and threatens all and sundry with legal action.

    The truth is that this man is a troll and insane. That is defamatory. Feel free to sue me if you wish. My defence is simple - the defamatory words are true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    .......and threatens all and sundry with legal action. ......
    hmmmm, didn't sound like a threat to me. It was meant to be a statement of what I have done

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    Quote Originally Posted by felgall View Post
    The version that works without JavaScript is always much easier to build.......
    Are you speaking on behalf of yourself only, or attempting to speak on behalf of everyone else as well?

    Depending on their level of skill, there are people who will argue that it isn't as it depends on the client's website spec's.


 
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