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    Peer-reviewed online Javascript Journal?

    I come from an academic background, so when I finish something I'm proud of, I naturally want to have it certified and advertised by others. I'm thinking of a site that reviews scripts and classifies those that are accepted as to who may find them worthwhile.

    But I don't know of any modern analogue to the traditional refereed technical journals. By "analogue" I mean different in these key respects: Submitted "articles" are interactive web pages rather than printable papers; and "publishing" need not involve hosting the actual page, but more importantly, letting the world know of its existence and importance.

    I am aware of sites that review for a price, thereby suggesting the ability to be compromised. In some cases, the price is that the author forfeits his copyright. Personally, I'd be especially interested in a journal that accepts scripts published under a variety of open-source public copyrights (my personal favorite is the Creative Commons share-alike license).

    If you know of such a forum or online journal, I'd love to hear about it. And if not, might you be in the mood to start such a forum/journal?

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    Why limit it to javascript?

    And who would the "peers" be??

    I'm leery of so-called peer reviews when the peers are less competent in the subject matter than those submitting the articles. Tends to lead to new and innovative material being throttled because those doing the reviews either don't understand it or disagree with it.

    I'm not against your idea. Think it could be a valuable resource. But would like to see my concerns addressed.
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    My experince of academic journals is that they are usually full of high-faluting rubbish concocted by people who are obliged to list a shedload of publications in their cv's to maintain their academic reputations. As Old Pedant says, in some so-called peer reviews the peers are less competent in the subject matter than those submitting the articles.

    Quite often these preposterously expensive journals are purchased only by university libraries and actually read by no-one. I well remember an issue of a legal Journal where in error the lead article was repeated from the previous issue. No-one (apart from the editor) ever noticed this or complained!

    The best resource is forums such as this where scripts are instantly improved/corrected by others and no-one has an axe to grind.


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    Hi, thanks for providing the useful information about javascript. This will be helpful in making my website more attractive and realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    The best resource is forums such as this where scripts are instantly improved/corrected by others and no-one has an axe to grind.
    But the problem with forums like this is that sometimes really good code appears and then disappears into the muck after a day or two.

    It *WOULD* be nice to have a site that captured the best posted code and indexed it in some meaningful and highly searchable way.

    Heck, just a site that added google-searchable titles to the scripts would be a big help. Searching through millions of posts with titles such as "Help me!" is not very fruitful. (And I know people *should* use meaningful titles, but so few really do.)
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    I should also note that the notion of retaiing any meaningful copyright to published JavaScript (or, indeed, published code in any language) is laughable.

    It's so trivial to take code and make a handful of meaningless (in terms of effects of the code) edits and render it unrecognizable as being related to the published code.

    I used to post (on my own sites) some of my code with a copyright, but I gave up on it. Let it go into the public domain. It's more useful that way, anyway.

    If you want your code to remain copyrighted, don't publish it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Page Notes View Post
    I come from an academic background, so when I finish something I'm proud of, I naturally want to have it certified and advertised by others. I'm thinking of a site that reviews scripts and classifies those that are accepted as to who may find them worthwhile.

    But I don't know of any modern analogue to the traditional refereed technical journals. By "analogue" I mean different in these key respects: Submitted "articles" are interactive web pages rather than printable papers; and "publishing" need not involve hosting the actual page, but more importantly, letting the world know of its existence and importance.

    I am aware of sites that review for a price, thereby suggesting the ability to be compromised. In some cases, the price is that the author forfeits his copyright. Personally, I'd be especially interested in a journal that accepts scripts published under a variety of open-source public copyrights (my personal favorite is the Creative Commons share-alike license).

    If you know of such a forum or online journal, I'd love to hear about it. And if not, might you be in the mood to start such a forum/journal?
    This is the next best thing
    http://jsdo.it/

    Amazing examples of stand-alone apps and framework plugins
    everything is javascript and css

    log in with some social id

    post your script. MIT license required
    gain followers by posting original work or forking another script, follow others who's scripting you like, and vote on favorite scripts. It tracks everything quite neatly and there is a ton of stuff to see.

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    Here's what I get from the above discussion regarding the ideal javascript journal or forum:

    1. The scope should be broader than just javascript and include all of the languages that go into creating web sites: js, css, html, xml, etc.

    2. As jimmyu and Old Pedant point out, it's important not to throttle creativity, as has happened in academic journals. What online reviewing support can help?

    a) TinyScript mentioned the ability to fork off a better variant
    b) Reader-contributed cross listings with related or competing javascripts?
    c) Reporting script test results and use experience?

    3. It's better if nobody has an axe to grind. At the same time, it's important to give due credit. Whether copyrights can promote this responsibility to give due credit is unclear.

    4. Following TinyScript's lead, I looked for copyright information at jsdo.it. The site itself seems to provide an implicit open-source copyright that honors authorship while encouraging propagation and modification. Some of the scripts also have their own FreeBSD or MIT copyrights.

    5. There is an urgent need for good organization. Old Pendant put it well: "the problem with forums like this is that sometimes really good code appears and then disappears into the muck after a day or two." One possibility is to provide a way for readers/reviewers to contribute alternate titles and classifications, as authors are often not in the best position to provide such information. Another is to create an evolving taxonomy wiki for use in classifying contributions.

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    I think you summed it up well.

    Your last two sentences especially are a great lead-in to what I'd like to see. Worth thinking more about.

    As I said, I am not personally concerned about any copyright issues, so I'll stay out of that part of the discussion.
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