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    CSS Ie Problem Top Middle Menu

    HI and thank you for your help and time.
    I'm working on changing my site to totally css I'm currently using freewebs menu builder (what a big mistake that was but a learning curve :-)
    I'm trying to build a template that works for me on every page I'm about 20% done to what I'm trying to accomplish.
    OK so here is my problem css 3 way column not working in ie its fine in firefox but in ie the top centre column does not show up at all Ive corrected several errors to get where i am but this one is eluding me i suspect it needs some sort of hack have already corrected the doc-type here is the css and html page.


    css style sheet

    /* CSS Document */

    /* CSS Document */

    body {
    background:#006400;
    font:.8em sans-serif;
    color:#000000;
    }

    /*
    * Container surrounding all content on the page
    */
    .fw-container {
    margin-left: auto;
    margin-right: auto;
    padding: 1em;
    width:95%;
    background: #006400;color:#000;
    border:5px solid #FFA500
    }
    a {
    color: #ff00ff;
    background-color:inherit;

    }

    a:hover {
    color: #7cfc00;
    background-color:inherit;

    }

    /*
    * Container surrounding Site Title, Small Title, and Logo
    */
    .fw-head {
    border-bottom:1px solid #556B2F;
    }

    /*
    * Site Title
    */
    .fw-head h1 {
    font:normal 1.5em georgia,serif;
    margin-bottom: 1px;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-align: center;
    }

    /*
    * Site Small Title
    */
    .fw-head h3 {
    margin: 0;
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background-color:inherit;
    text-align: center;

    }
    .fw-logo img {
    width:100%;
    height:380px;
    display: block;
    }

    .fw-nav-menu hr {
    display:none;
    }
    .fw-footer hr {
    display:none;
    }

    /*
    * NavBar
    * UL containing all the NavBar links
    */
    .fw-nav-menu ul {
    margin:10px 0;
    padding:5px;
    border:1px solid #DDD;
    background: #000000;color:#000;
    list-style:none;
    text-align:center;
    }


    /*
    * Individual NavBar LI's
    */
    .fw-nav-menu li {
    display:inline;
    margin:0 5px;
    }

    /*
    * Individual NavBar links
    */
    .fw-nav-menu a {
    text-decoration:none;
    }

    /*
    * This is the container that holds the main content (paragraphs) of the page.
    */
    .fw-content {

    }

    /*
    * Paragraph title
    */
    .fw-paragraph h2 {
    font: normal 1.6em georgia,serif;
    margin-bottom: 2px;
    text-align: center;
    font-weight:bold;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background-color:inherit;
    }

    /*
    * Paragraph body
    */
    .fw-paragraph-body {
    padding-bottom: 2px;
    margin-bottom: 30px;
    border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
    }

    p {
    margin-top: 5px;
    margin-bottom: 15px;
    }

    /*
    * Site Footer
    */
    .fw-footer {
    clear: both;
    font-size: .7em;
    text-align: center;
    font-weight:bold;
    }

    /*
    * All elements on form pages are surrounded by
    * a SPAN with class="formSpan"
    */
    .formSpan {
    display:block;
    margin-bottom:8px;
    }
    /* begin styles for RSS Feed */

    .rss-box {
    margin: 1em;
    width: 150px;
    background-color: inherit;
    border: 1px solid silver;

    }
    .rss-items {
    margin-top:0px;
    padding: 0.5em;
    margin-left:0px;
    color: #cccccc;
    }
    p.rss-title {padding: 0.5em;}
    .rss-title {
    font-size: 8pt;
    background-color: #000000;
    color: lime;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-align: center;
    }

    .rss-item {
    font-size: 7pt;
    list-style:none;
    padding-bottom:1em;
    }

    .rss-item a {
    color: #006400;
    font-size: 9pt;
    font-weight:bold;
    background-color: inherit;
    }

    .rss-item a:visited {
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background: #000000;
    }

    .rss-date {
    font-size: 7pt;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background: #000000;
    }

    /* buttons modeled from http://www.wellstyled.com/css-inline-buttons.html */

    .pod-play {
    width:12em;
    margin: 0:
    padding: 0.1em ;
    padding: 0;

    white-space:nowrap;
    text-decoration: none;
    vertical-align:middle;
    background: #fb6;
    color: #000000;
    }
    .pod-play em {
    width: 1em; cursor: auto;
    font-style: normal;
    margin:0; padding: 0.1em 0.5em;
    background: #ffffff;
    color: #222;
    }
    .pod-play span {
    width: 1em; cursor: auto;
    margin:0; padding: 0.1em 0.5em 0.1em 0.3em;
    }
    .pod-play:hover {
    background: #666;
    color: #ffffff;
    }
    .pod-play:hover em {
    background: #000000;
    color: #ffffff;
    }
    body {
    color:#333;
    background-color:ffffff;
    margin:20px;
    padding:0px;
    font:11px verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    }
    h1 {
    margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;
    padding:0px;
    font-size:28px;
    font-weight:900;
    color:#ccc;
    }
    h2 {
    font:bold 12px/14px verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    margin:0px 0px 5px 0px;
    padding:0px;
    }
    p {
    font:11px/20px verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    margin:0px 0px 16px 0px;
    padding:0px;
    }
    .Content>p {margin:0px;}
    .Content>p+p {text-indent:30px;}

    a {
    color:#09c;
    font-size:11px;
    font-family:verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight:600;
    text-decoration:none;
    }

    /* All the content boxes belong to the content class. */
    .content {
    position:relative; /* Position is declared "relative" to gain control of stacking order (z-index). */
    width:auto;
    min-width:120px;
    margin:0px 210px 20px 170px;
    border:5px solid black;
    background-color:ffffff;
    padding:10px;
    z-index:3; /* This allows the content to overlap the right menu in narrow windows in good browsers. */
    }

    #navAlpha {
    position:absolute;
    width:150px;
    top:560px;
    left:55px;
    border:1px dashed black;
    background-color:#eee;
    padding:10px;
    z-index:2;

    /* Here is the ugly brilliant hack that protects IE5/Win from its own stupidity.
    Thanks to Tantek Celik for the hack and to Eric Costello for publicizing it.
    IE5/Win incorrectly parses the "\"}"" value, prematurely closing the style
    declaration. The incorrect IE5/Win value is above, while the correct value is
    below. See http://glish.com/css/hacks.asp for details. */
    voice-family: "\"}\"";
    voice-family:inherit;
    width:128px;
    }
    /* I've heard this called the "be nice to Opera 5" rule. Basically, it feeds correct
    length values to user agents that exhibit the parsing error exploited above yet get
    the CSS box model right and understand the CSS2 parent-child selector. ALWAYS include
    a "be nice to Opera 5" rule every time you use the Tantek Celik hack (above). */
    body>#navAlpha {width:128px;}

    #navBeta {
    position:absolute;
    width:190px;
    top:560px;
    right:55px;
    border:1px dashed black;
    background-color:#eee;
    padding:10px;
    z-index:1;
    /* Again, the ugly brilliant hack. */
    voice-family: "\"}\"";
    voice-family:inherit;
    width:168px;
    }
    /* Again, "be nice to Opera 5". */
    body>#navBeta {width:168px;}





    here is the html source code


    <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">

    <HTML>
    <HEAD>
    <TITLE>HOME OF POKER - Home of poker play poker online ultimate online poker reviews resource</TITLE>
    <META content="Home of poker,poker reviews,play poker,online poker reviews,play poker online,home of poker reviews,poker review,home of poker play poker online ultimate online poker reviews resource,freerolls reviews,online casino reviews section," name=keywords>
    <META content="Home of poker play poker online ultimate online poker reviews resource available,The home of poker reviews poker and casino online rooms,free play poker win cash prizes " name=description><LINK href="../../My Documents/HOME OF POKER/style.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet>
    <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
    <BODY>
    <SCRIPT src="http://images.freewebs.com/JS/fw.js" type=text/javascript></SCRIPT>

    <SCRIPT src="http://images.freewebs.com/JS/Toolbar/toolbarLoader.js" type=text/javascript></SCRIPT>

    <SCRIPT src="http://images.freewebs.com/JS/Toolbar/fwToolbar.js" type=text/javascript></SCRIPT>

    <DIV class=fw-container>
    <DIV class=fw-head>
    <H1>HOME OF POKER</H1>
    <H3>Home of poker play poker online ultimate online poker reviews resource</H3>
    <DIV class=fw-logo><IMG src="../../My Documents/HOME OF POKER/logo.jpg" alt="HOME OF POKER" width="850" height="380"> </DIV></DIV>
    <DIV class=fw-nav-menu>
    <UL>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/index.htm">HOME OF POKER</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/pokerroombonuses.htm">POKER ROOM BONUSES</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/toponlinepokerreview.htm">TOP ONLINE POKER REVIEW</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/freerollpokerreviews.htm">FREEROLL POKER REVIEWS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/worldwidepokernews.htm">WORLDWIDE POKER NEWS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/casinoreviews.htm">CASINO REVIEWS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/reloadbonuses.htm">RELOAD BONUSES</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/hotpromotions.htm">HOT PROMOTIONS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/freeplaypoker.htm">FREE PLAY POKER</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/livepokertournamentfeed.htm">LIVE POKER TOURNAMENT FEED</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/livepokeruktvlisings.htm">LIVE POKER UK TV LISINGS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/livepokerustvlistings.htm">LIVE POKER US TV LISTINGS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/livepokersetvlistings.htm">LIVE POKER SE TV LISTINGS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/beginnersguides.htm">BEGINNERS GUIDES</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/pokerlingo.htm">POKER LINGO</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/wsophistory.htm">W.S.O.P HISTORY</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/whoswhogallery.htm">WHO'S WHO GALLERY</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/pokerodds.htm">POKER ODDS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/advanced.htm">ADVANCED</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/newtopoker.htm">NEW TO POKER</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/womanspoker.htm">WOMANS POKER</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/sportsbookaccounts.htm">sports book accounts</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/headsupsimulator.htm">Heads up simulator</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/handrankings.htm">HAND RANKINGS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/wpteventvandwptnews.htm">WPT EVENT V AND WPT NEWS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/freegames.htm">free games</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/bingo.htm">BiNgo</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/directdownloads.htm">DIRECT DOWNLOADS</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/affilliates.htm">AFFILLIATES</A></LI>
    <LI><A class=section href="http://www.home-of-poker.com/links.htm">LINKS</A></LI></UL>
    <HR>
    </DIV>
    <DIV class=fw-content><!-- ParagraphStart 92681348 -->
    <DIV class=fw-paragraph>
    <H2><A name=92681348></A><!-- ParagraphTitleStart -->paragragh title goes here <!-- ParagraphTitleEnd --></H2>
    <DIV class=fw-paragraph-body><!-- ParagraphBodyStart -->
    <P><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #c0c0c0">
    <DIV class=content>
    <H1>Flanking Menus</H1>
    <P>With the popularity of three column layouts, this layout is bound to be useful to many. You may have seen this technique used at <A title=wrongwaygoback href="http://www.wrongwaygoback.com/">dynamic ribbon device</A>. In fact, this "flanking menus" technique was devised by BlueRobot for that site. Surprisingly, the technique has caused quite a bit of talk. The concept is simple: a content box with large margins is flanked by two additional (menu) boxes.</P>
    <P>An important benefit of this technique is the order of elements in the HTML source. Here, the order is essentially content, menu one, menu two. For old browsers, text-only browsers, screen-readers, and many alternative devices, this means that the content is displayed before the menus. And, after all, most users visit a page for its content.</P></DIV>
    <DIV class=content>
    <H2>Known Issues</H2>
    <P>This layout fails in IE4.5/Mac. That browser has poor support for CSS absolute positioning, yet it recognizes and executes the CSS @import statement used to hide CSS from broken browsers. Currently, there is no known solution.</P></DIV>
    <DIV class=content><A title="Layouts to make your own..." href="http://members5.freewebs.com/MembersA/WebzEdit/default.asp">&lt; Return to the Layout Reservoir</A> &nbsp;::&nbsp; <A title="" href="http://members5.freewebs.com/MembersA/WebzEdit/view_css.asp?layout=layout3">View the CSS</A> </DIV>
    <DIV id=navAlpha>
    <H2>Links</H2>
    <P><A title="A List Apart: For People Who Make Websites" href="http://www.alistapart.com/">A List Apart</A><BR><A title="The Website of Dave Elfving" href="http://greasyskillet.org/">Greasy Skillet</A><BR><A title="Sketches, illustrations, and Voodoo Bob" href="http://royrosenow.com/">Roy Rosenow</A><BR><A title="A swanky weblog" href="http://swankyal.com/">SwankyAl</A><BR><A title="" href="">Fake Link One</A><BR><A title="" href="">Nothing Here</A><BR><A title="" href="">Links Nowhere</A><BR><A title="" href="">Fake Link Four</A><BR><A title="" href="">Fifth Fake Link</A><BR></P></DIV>
    <DIV id=navBeta>
    <H2>A Call To Action</H2>
    <P>Much effort has been made to ensure that the layouts in the BlueRobot Layout Reservoir appear as intended in CSS2 compliant browsers. The content should be viewable, though unstyled, in other web browsers. If you encounter a problem that is not listed as a known issue, I am most likely not aware of it. <EM>Please</EM> <A title="Email BlueRobot about a layout issue" href="mailto:rob@bluerobot.com?subject=Layout Reservoir">email me</A> a heads-up. Your help will benefit the other five or six people who visit this site.</P></DIV></FONT>
    <P></P><!-- ParagraphBodyEnd --></DIV></DIV><!-- ParagraphEnd 92681348 --></DIV>
    <DIV class=fw-footer>
    <HR>

    <P>HOME-OF-POKER©&nbsp;2006&nbsp;All&nbsp;Rights&nbsp;Reserved&nbsp;&nbsp;encourages&nbsp;you&nbsp;to&nbsp;play &nbsp;&nbsp;poker&nbsp;but&nbsp;gamble&nbsp;responsibly.&nbsp;If&nbsp;you&nbsp;or&nbsp;someone&nbsp; you&nbsp;know&nbsp;has&nbsp;a&nbsp;gambling&nbsp;problem,&nbsp;call&nbsp;800.522.4700&nbsp;:&nbsp;ww w.ncpgambling.org</P></DIV>
    <DIV class=fw-tracker>
    <P></P></DIV></DIV>
    <SCRIPT src="http://counters.freewebs.com/Members/Counters/tracker.jsp" type=text/javascript></SCRIPT>
    <!-- PageID 57373737--><!-- members10-28 --><!-- --><script type="text/javascript" src="/i.js"></script></BODY></HTML>



    please note yes there are some other issues with colors clashing due to duplicated commands but i think i can work those out the page will end up completly white when finnished again thanks for taking the time to look and help.

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    ive uploaded the page to some free web space so might make it easy to look at http://www.freewebs.com/homeofpoker/html.html
    im gobsmacked as soon as i posted this the page corrected itself but now its gone again i just dont get this at all.
    here is the current css
    /* CSS Document */

    /* CSS Document */

    body {
    background:#006400;
    font:.8em sans-serif;
    color:#000000;
    }

    /*
    * Container surrounding all content on the page
    */
    .fw-container {
    margin-left: auto;
    margin-right: auto;
    padding: 1em;
    width:95%;
    background: #006400;color:#000;
    border:5px solid #FFA500
    }
    a {
    color: #ff00ff;
    background-color:inherit;

    }

    a:hover {
    color: #7cfc00;
    background-color:inherit;

    }

    /*
    * Container surrounding Site Title, Small Title, and Logo
    */
    .fw-head {
    border-bottom:1px solid #556B2F;
    }

    /*
    * Site Title
    */
    .fw-head h1 {
    font:normal 1.5em georgia,serif;
    margin-bottom: 1px;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-align: center;
    }

    /*
    * Site Small Title
    */
    .fw-head h3 {
    margin: 0;
    font-weight: bold;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background-color:inherit;
    text-align: center;

    }
    .fw-logo img {
    width:100%;
    height:380px;
    display: block;
    }

    .fw-nav-menu hr {
    display:none;
    }
    .fw-footer hr {
    display:none;
    }

    /*
    * NavBar
    * UL containing all the NavBar links
    */
    .fw-nav-menu ul {
    margin:10px 0;
    padding:5px;
    border:1px solid #DDD;
    background: #000000;color:#000;
    list-style:none;
    text-align:center;
    }


    /*
    * Individual NavBar LI's
    */
    .fw-nav-menu li {
    display:inline;
    margin:0 5px;
    }

    /*
    * Individual NavBar links
    */
    .fw-nav-menu a {
    text-decoration:none;
    }

    /*
    * This is the container that holds the main content (paragraphs) of the page.
    */
    .fw-content {

    }

    /*
    * Paragraph title
    */
    .fw-paragraph h2 {
    font: normal 1.6em georgia,serif;
    margin-bottom: 2px;
    text-align: center;
    font-weight:bold;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background-color:inherit;
    }

    /*
    * Paragraph body
    */
    .fw-paragraph-body {
    padding-bottom: 2px;
    margin-bottom: 30px;
    border-bottom: 1px solid #ccc;
    }

    p {
    margin-top: 5px;
    margin-bottom: 15px;
    }

    /*
    * Site Footer
    */
    .fw-footer {
    clear: both;
    font-size: .7em;
    text-align: center;
    font-weight:bold;
    }

    /*
    * All elements on form pages are surrounded by
    * a SPAN with class="formSpan"
    */
    .formSpan {
    display:block;
    margin-bottom:8px;
    }
    /* begin styles for RSS Feed */

    .rss-box {
    margin: 1em;
    width: 150px;
    background-color: inherit;
    border: 1px solid silver;

    }
    .rss-items {
    margin-top:0px;
    padding: 0.5em;
    margin-left:0px;
    color: #cccccc;
    }
    p.rss-title {padding: 0.5em;}
    .rss-title {
    font-size: 8pt;
    background-color: #000000;
    color: lime;
    font-weight:bold;
    text-align: center;
    }

    .rss-item {
    font-size: 7pt;
    list-style:none;
    padding-bottom:1em;
    }

    .rss-item a {
    color: #006400;
    font-size: 9pt;
    font-weight:bold;
    background-color: inherit;
    }

    .rss-item a:visited {
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background: #000000;
    }

    .rss-date {
    font-size: 7pt;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    background: #000000;
    }

    /* buttons modeled from http://www.wellstyled.com/css-inline-buttons.html */

    .pod-play {
    width:12em;
    margin: 0:
    padding: 0.1em ;
    padding: 0;

    white-space:nowrap;
    text-decoration: none;
    vertical-align:middle;
    background: #fb6;
    color: #000000;
    }
    .pod-play em {
    width: 1em; cursor: auto;
    font-style: normal;
    margin:0; padding: 0.1em 0.5em;
    background: #ffffff;
    color: #222;
    }
    .pod-play span {
    width: 1em; cursor: auto;
    margin:0; padding: 0.1em 0.5em 0.1em 0.3em;
    }
    .pod-play:hover {
    background: #666;
    color: #ffffff;
    }
    .pod-play:hover em {
    background: #000000;
    color: #ffffff;
    }
    body {
    color:#333;
    background-color:ffffff;
    margin:20px;
    padding:0px;
    font:11px verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    }
    h1 {
    margin:0px 0px 15px 0px;
    padding:0px;
    font-size:28px;
    font-weight:900;
    color:#ccc;
    }
    h2 {
    font:bold 12px/14px verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    margin:0px 0px 5px 0px;
    padding:0px;
    }
    p {
    font:11px/20px verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    margin:0px 0px 16px 0px;
    padding:0px;
    }
    .Content>p {margin:0px;}
    .Content>p+p {text-indent:30px;}

    }

    a {
    color:#09c;
    font-size:11px;
    font-family:verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
    font-weight:600;
    text-decoration:none;
    }
    a:link {color:#09c;}
    a:visited {color:#07a;}
    a:hover {background-color:#eee;}

    /* All the content boxes belong to the content class. */
    .content {
    position:relative; /* Position is declared "relative" to gain control of stacking order (z-index). */
    width:auto;
    min-width:120px;
    margin:0px 210px 20px 170px;
    border:5px solid 000;
    background-color:ffffff;
    padding:10px;
    z-index:3; /* This allows the content to overlap the right menu in narrow windows in good browsers. */
    }

    #navAlpha {
    position:absolute;
    width:150px;
    top:560px;
    left:55px;
    border:1px solid black;
    background-color:#eee;
    padding:10px;
    z-index:2;

    /* Here is the ugly brilliant hack that protects IE5/Win from its own stupidity.
    Thanks to Tantek Celik for the hack and to Eric Costello for publicizing it.
    IE5/Win incorrectly parses the "\"}"" value, prematurely closing the style
    declaration. The incorrect IE5/Win value is above, while the correct value is
    below. See http://glish.com/css/hacks.asp for details. */
    voice-family: "\"}\"";
    voice-family:inherit;
    width:128px;
    }
    /* I've heard this called the "be nice to Opera 5" rule. Basically, it feeds correct
    length values to user agents that exhibit the parsing error exploited above yet get
    the CSS box model right and understand the CSS2 parent-child selector. ALWAYS include
    a "be nice to Opera 5" rule every time you use the Tantek Celik hack (above). */
    body>#navAlpha {width:128px;}

    #navBeta {
    position:absolute;
    width:190px;
    top:560px;
    right:55px;
    border:1px solid black;
    background-color:#eee;
    padding:10px;
    z-index:1;
    /* Again, the ugly brilliant hack. */
    voice-family: "\"}\"";
    voice-family:inherit;
    width:168px;
    }
    /* Again, "be nice to Opera 5". */
    body>#navBeta {width:168px;}
    Last edited by quibs; 09-23-2006 at 04:01 PM.

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    i am truly truly amazed i have solved the problem im no expert but is what just did okay i placed <td> at the start and end of the top middle column and hey presto it now appears in ie .i guess i faked a table :-)


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