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  1. #16
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    I looked at your site. See that scroll bar on your menu (left column). That WAS a problem for all of us back in the 20th century because of framesets. You might be happy with that, but I never was and for once in my life the vast majority of coders weren't, so it was changed along with adding images to the web. You may like the 50's look of your homepage; it maybe what you were trying to achieve. Surprised you don't have colored or moving <hr> separators.

    All the typing saved by using framesets is lost when <noframes> content has to be written. I have never heard of security problems with framesets, what I did hear was google has a hard time with them and if you want a higher rating don't use em, but I don't know.

    Use em if you want. I just believe they will be gone soon, not one major web site uses them, lots better ways to do things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DanInMa View Post
    jalarie's home page makes extensive use of framesets, so maybe he's defending his own choice of using them? I think sunfighter pointed out some important reasons not to use a frameset.
    I'm neither for, nor against, framesets. As explained on my opening page, "Things that I have learned about web sites [which includes framesets] are displayed here in the hope of helping others to learn, also." And the Welcome page tells you how to get out of frames: "You may expand any of my pages to use the entire window and become individually book-markable by clicking on its header." And you can re-enter frames, if you've left them, by using the "Reset frames" link at the bottom of any page. This is all for demonstration purposes for anyone who wishes to know of such things. The site still works without frames, if you wish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunfighter View Post
    I looked at your site. See that scroll bar on your menu (left column). That WAS a problem for all of us back in the 20th century because of framesets.
    A scroll bar appears anywhere that content is larger than the space alloted to it. I'm currently (while writing this response) typing in a box with a scroll bar. Is that a problem?

    Quote Originally Posted by sunfighter View Post
    All the typing saved by using framesets is lost when <noframes> content has to be written.
    True, if the original question had included that option.

    Quote Originally Posted by sunfighter View Post
    I have never heard of security problems with framesets, what I did hear was google has a hard time with them and if you want a higher rating don't use em, but I don't know.
    My site comes up on page one of many searches; I can't hope for much better than that! A long-lost relative found me totally by accident that way when she was Googling.


 
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