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    why Photoshop for web design?

    Why is photoshop so much more popular then illustrator?

    From what i know photoshop is ment for editing photos while illustrator is better for vector objects.

    Do to the fact that most of the graphics needed for web-design are vector based why does it seem so many people use photoshop and not illustrator?

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    photoshop is the mother of all graphical editors and thereof will own everyone . . .

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    Many professional graphic designers use Illustrator. However, I guess the reason is because Illustrator is more made to create graphics for print, e.g. posters, logos, etc., and it’s a little too much just to create websites because a simpler and cheaper program like Photoshop is working just as good.

    The best program for website design is Fireworks, though, as this is actually made for such a purpose. You can create vector objects, have a lot of shapes, and many functions are just “ready-made” to create website designs where you would have to perform some more tasks in Photoshop to get the same results (after all, PS is actually a photo editing software). And it’s also specialized in exporting graphics for the web.

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    Fireworks is superb. I personally use Illustrator for near everything, and photoshop primarily for advanced shading effects and general photo manipulation of any linked CT's I may have.

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    How is the learning curve between photoshop and Illustrator? I'm guessing they are similar? I personally use photoshop but only because when i was choosing a program i could find way photoshop tutorials to help me learn.

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    It depends on how far you'd like to take the packages and design, as with any software, the more complex the desired result, the more knowledge needed to execute it.

    To get out simpler results, they are both very friendly to use.

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    Just need it for basic web graphics.

    ie: Banners,gradients, Curves to make divs have rounded corners, ect...

    i'm sure photoshop works fine for my minimal requirments, however i am considering going to illustrator as most stuff i will ever require to do is vector based so as my skills/knowladge grow i might as well learn with the more suitible software.
    Last edited by srule_; 07-23-2007 at 03:13 PM.

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    I’m not getting paid for endorsing it in any way but for those simple tasks Fireworks is still the perfect program for you. For example, there is the “rounded rectancle” tool where you draw it, and you can change the roundness of each individual corner on the fly. There are other auto shapes like stars (where you can change the number, size, and roundness of the points/tips with one click), donuts (circle with hole in it whose size you can change), arrows, spirals, and all kinds of scalable vector objects that can be edited to get any effect you want. And with the pen tool you can draw your own vector objects and modify their look in any way you want. You can even convert text to a vector and change its shape.
    You can have gradients of all kinds, shapes, and colors, textured backgrounds and background patterns (which you also can create yourself for future use) and what not.

    One could say it like this: Firworks is the best of Photoshop and Illustrator in one piece. Well, not exactly but it is damn easy to use for the things you descirbed. And for help and tutorials there is http://www.fireworksguruforum.com/

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    And now with Adobe buying out Macromedia, Fireworks is more compatible when it comes to reading psd files since the release of FW 9.
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    Quote Originally Posted by srule_ View Post
    Do to the fact that most of the graphics needed for web-design are vector based...
    That is simply not true - unless we are talking Flash or SVG - all common graphic formats on the web are bitmap based.

    Sure you can use a vector based program to create your images, but as soon as you export them as jpegs, pngs etc. - they become bitmaps.

    And which is the greatest bitmap editor around....

    Photoshop

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    mm yes, i am by no means any expert so what i say is not meant to be quoted, (unless it is quoted as an example of what is wrong, as u just did.. haha)

    anyway i was talking more along the lines of creating objects, not editing them.

    Also, i was favoring illustrator over fireworks for the simple fact that i am assuming it's interface is similar to photoshop, making it easier for me to pick up (and switch back and forth depending on my task)

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    My personal experience as a Photoshop enthusiast was a difficult transition into Illustrator. I plan on adding Fireworks into my arsenal very soon. I think the best thing you can do is download the trial versions of both (or other) applications and let that be the deciding factor.
    Most of my questions/posts are fairly straightforward and simple. I post long verbose messages in an attempt to be thorough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    Many professional graphic designers use Illustrator. However, I guess the reason is because Illustrator is more made to create graphics for print, e.g. posters, logos, etc., and it’s a little too much just to create websites because a simpler and cheaper program like Photoshop is working just as good.

    The best program for website design is Fireworks, though, as this is actually made for such a purpose. You can create vector objects, have a lot of shapes, and many functions are just “ready-made” to create website designs where you would have to perform some more tasks in Photoshop to get the same results (after all, PS is actually a photo editing software). And it’s also specialized in exporting graphics for the web.
    May I remind you the new CS3 goes hand in hand with the CS3 suite? The programs automatically know you've got more than one CS3 product on the pc and will make the option of converting what's in program1 to program2.

    I do like Fireworks for making roll overs, makes it much easier.
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    I have used quite a bit of software out there and there are pros and cons to all of them. Illustrator is for print. Fireworks is decent but not as powerful as Photoshop (if you really know your way around).

    I use Photoshop to design the initial look of my website, then I code it using CSS and XHTML. It's way more powerful than other programs and is better suited for the bitmap nature of web graphics. It too has an excellent web export option. In CS2 you can even do simple rollovers in no time (I used to have to do them in ImageReady). And now that Adobe has merged with Macromedia I foresee improvements implementing the finest aspects of both software.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lithriel View Post
    In CS2 you can even do simple rollovers in no time…
    I suppose this is a JavaScript based “solution”? Not good. They should be done with CSS as well.


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