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    IE, Mozilla, Opera or NS

    i need to know wicht of the three browsers is the best and why...

    i am using IE... However it has been sugestted to me that it is not good... But it is the only thing that supports my scripts...

    so which is my best choice?

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    That is a complicated topic, out of the four you listed, IE has the lowest technology support and poorest implementation. I personally use Mozilla myself.

    It really isn't that hard to make a site cross browser supported, as long as you write valid (X)HTML and CSS that goes a long way. IE, like mentioned before, doesn't support as much as CSS as any of the others. IE hasn't had a major update since 2001, so what can you expect. And considering that IE7 will only work for people who buy Longhorn (the next windows version) and that isn't supposed to come out until 2005 or 2006, IE is and going to be the next NS4.
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    No one likes IE... i do

    it is the only browser that supports my scripts//what can i do?

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    IE is shhhhht compared to Mozilla IMHO.
    Not only has it much more securityholes, but it's support for some standards are very weak.
    A browsers purpose is to translate the code into a graphical interface, and IE renders some stuff the wrong way.
    A simple example: border: 1px dotted #000000; render a dashed line. The dashed line and dotted line looks just the same in IE.

    Mozilla also has more options for the user, pop-up blocker is one among others. The cookie-handling seems to be better in Mozilla too, I still get "coockied" on some sites when I use IE although I have set it to reject 3rd party cookies. Mozilla does not let this happen.

    Personally, I dont understand why it took me so long for completing this browser-switch thing, I just Love Moz

    I've heard that Opera has better support for some standards. but I don't like the interface of it plus the banner at the top is distubing me.
    But I still use it when I'm testing my work.

    Hope that is to some use for you

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    Originally posted by JAVAEOC
    No one likes IE... i do
    it is the only browser that supports my scripts//what can i do?
    Learn WHY your scripts doesn't work in other browsers. Learn what constructs are iew proprietary. Try to code according to the other prowsers primarily, and you'll find it's not hard to accommodate for the black holes in iew. When you ask us how to do something, also consider asking us WHY we chose to do it that way, and why your original solution didn't work. This is where you can learn small feature differences most easily.

    Oh, and of course, read up on what you're trying to do. First of all, try to learn the language before you fiddle with the browsers. By knowing the works of the language you can understand why your scripts don't work better.
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    Learn WHY your scripts doesn't work in other browsers
    OK... its not the way I write my scripts its just that IE is the only thing that supports my scripts...

    there is nothing to do about it... Mozilla, NS, Opera just dont do it

    and there is no one on earth who can make it work in anything else then IE....

    so if you say that mozilla supports more... this is not true!!!
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    I see what your saying (Black n white) Confusing one!

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    Originally posted by JAVAEOC
    OK... its not the way I write my scripts its just that IE is the only thing that supports my scripts...

    there is nothing to do about it... Mozilla, NS, Opera just dont do it

    and there is no one on earth who can make it work in anything else then IE....

    so if you say that mozilla supports more... this is not true!!!
    Then let's see some scripts that your talking about that work only in IE.
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    Originally posted by JAVAEOC
    OK... its not the way I write my scripts its just that IE is the only thing that supports my scripts...

    there is nothing to do about it... Mozilla, NS, Opera just dont do it

    and there is no one on earth who can make it work in anything else then IE....

    so if you say that mozilla supports more... this is not true!!!
    Mozilla supports more DOM functionality and therefore allows one to create better and more functional scripts.
    If IE is the only browser that can run your scripts means that YOU write your scripts using IE-proprietory objects/methods/constructs. That does not make your scripts better, on contrary it makes them outdated and hard to convert.
    Much better way to approach scripting is write DOM compliant scripts (testing for support of objects used rather than sniffing the browser) and fall back to IE methods when DOM support is lacking. For example:
    Code:
    if(document.body.addEventListener)
      { /* initialize compliant event handling */
      }
    else
      { if(document.body.attachEvent)
          { /* use IE methods */
          }
        else
          { /* No support for required objects. Abort */
          }
      }
    This will assure forward compatibility of your scripts!!!
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    ok, if ANYONE can make this script work in anything else then IE with all its fucntions (including the scroll bar colors, glowing effect etc.) the I will switch to what ever browser supports that script...


    see attachment

    P.S. if it si not possible in anything else then IE I WILL STICK WITH IE
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    Last edited by JAVAEOC; 12-02-2003 at 02:03 AM.

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    ha, all you NS users i bet you dont see this pritty GREEN scrollbar on the left of each coding forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    P.S. just an example what NS cant do

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    Do you also sugest to go to LINUX ???

    cause i really like linux but i can run IE on it.... so no linux for me

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    Originally posted by JAVAEOC
    :ha, all you NS users i bet you dont see this pritty GREEN scrollbar on the left of each coding forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    P.S. just an example what NS cant do
    And you think that's a bad thing? Personally I'm delighted that my scrollbar always looks the same.
    "Why bother with accessibility? ... Because deep down you know that the web is attractive to people who aren't exactly like you." - Joe Clark

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    exactly, changing the scrolbar color is a wonderfull thing... and i like it... and NS cant do it... so NS does not support more then IE does.

    P.S. not changing the scrollbar color is a baaaad thing, very bad

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    Um. . .No. It just doesn't do that among a few other things. While it is a matter of personal preference, facts are facts and what has been said here is in fact, fact. If things change but applications don't it generally means downfall. Imagine if M$ just stuck with Windows 95 but software developers continued to advance to what we have today. While that may be an extreme example it is happening at a smaller scale to IE everyday they neglect to send us out an update.

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