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    Question still searching for outsource emailer specs

    My only concern for my email service provider should be the web application and database that allows users to purchase email accounts online (and website addresses). Adding in the code to create accounts on an outsource mail platform API once this application is built is relatively trivial, apparently.

    This is THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE my site needs to figure out:
    The web application needs to create the search of available e-mail addresses/website addresses, take the registration, link over to the payment, update the available e-mail/website address database and interface to the outsource mail platform API (messaging host). It will also do online processing of orders.

    I'll still have to keep this info about users/accounts. It depends on what detail of service with third party. Third party like: InternetSecure, where the transaction is processed but only the funds are exchanged not the order itself.

    Actual maiboxes & settings will be outsourced to messaging host.

    Any thoughts to get it done is appeciated...in advance!

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    im not sure im im the only one or its just that im tired but...

    i do not understand what you want help with?
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    i do not understand what you want help with?
    Seems to me that you want to create an online email service where people have to pay for it. For all the services you need, you'll need different entities, and combine them together. I sincerely doubt that there is any one program that does EVERYTHING you ask for, as you are asking for payment for your services, the people who coded that software would probably have asked for a fee for such a program.

    Your best bet is to search a database that handles individual programs like the one you are asking for at sites like:

    www.sourceforge.com
    hotscripts.com

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    At least you guys attempted to answer it

    In a nutshell what I need is a web application and database that allows users to purchase email accounts online.

    There's more to it, but one thing at a time. I've spent a hundred hours looking for this info...

    It's in hundreds of email provider set ups...yet so far no luck in someone saying how to get the web app done.

    There's CommuniGate Pro- they got everything I would need... except I'll be outsourcing the mailboxes & settings using a messaging host which has added features. So, no point in licencing what I wouldn't use.

    But I need the inner workings as a web app!

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    Try writing a company whose setup you like and ask them the particulars.
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    do you own all the domains for the emails you want to offer?

    if so then it would be really really easy to host all the domains, i know under ensim auto email account creation can be done. Then you just need to have the payment system.

    I think thats what your trying to acheive?
    i still dont understand you fully
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    hey, Phool!

    "do you own all the domains for the emails you want to offer?"
    Yes. Quite a few. Payment system will be outsourced. Ensim sounds like it could handle good portion of it. Will ask them.
    "web based auto email account creation..."
    Still need to find proper Form to display the signup and names for choices to make email addresses from...like
    http://www.netidentity.com/default.asp

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    I'm just wondering something, if you plan to make it a paid service, what incentives are there for someone to pay for their email when you can get it for free from numorus other sources like the person's ISP/IAP?

    Like said before, there isn't just one service that is going to be able to do everything you want. You are going to have to end up doing some of the coding yourself.

    If you are using Windows servers with Active Directory and Exchange, you can just use ADSI (Active Directory Scripting Interface) to create your email accounts too.
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    Fair enough question. I have a 'ton' of domain names for my niche. If someone wants an email address (and/or website address) which my domain names cover...well, they could lease it from my company.

    Communigate Pro is an all-in-one deal. But I wouldn't use the backend - since mailboxes/settings will be outsourced. However, account creations would still be charged as licenced users.

    Forms are what I need for the signup. I do expect to have to code parts. But won't pay to guys who are smug with the knowledge and won't comment on exactly what and how they will do the segments. For example: Got a quote for approx. $4000.00.

    $1500-$2000 for the coding. $2000 for 'software'...

    BUT NO MENTION OF WHAT CODING AND WHAT SOFTWARE!

    As far as I'm concerned, web developers 'smug with the knowledge' try to keep clients stupid so they can be targeted as 'sucker bait'.

    My purpose in these posts are to find out the specifics I need then relate my needs to a coder and developer I'll choose to hire.

    Excuse the rant, I'm getting tired of B.S. from a lot of B.S. 'artists'.

    Last edited by Kawartha; 04-13-2003 at 02:23 AM.

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    You're probably right...It's all smoke and mirrors. Try asking at the experts exchange or tek-tips and see what happens.
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    Thanks, zoobie, for the referrals. I googled them up and will study the sites! I also wrote to two email outsource vendors asking particulars...so far no replies.

    Ok, now off to study that http://www.experts-exchange.com
    and http://www.tek-tips.com

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    i still think this thing would be pretty easy to make.

    assuming you are hosting all the domains on your server then this is how i would set it up.

    Lets say you have 3 domains available for email address's. You create a table in a mysql database called 'domains' and put these 3 in it.

    On the form where you choose the available domains for email address's you can simply tell the dropdown list of available domains to contain all the domains you put in the table 'domains'.

    very simple.

    Why? You have just created an easy way to expand your domain list. If you wanted to add another domain you can just put it in the 'domains' table.

    lets say you have basketball.net as one of your domains. Foreach domain you have in the table 'domains' you create a table called. 'domainname_emails' for basketball.net you would create 'basketball_net_emails' and then as each email address is registered you would put it in there.

    Why? You have just created an easy way to keep track of your emails for each domain. You can use this to search for an email address to see if its taken, etc.

    very simple. the whole process would be automatic.
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    email outsource vendors??
    would you tell your competition your business secrets? i doubt you will get help from them.
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    You wouldn't believe how difficult it has been to find something apparently this easy!

    To repeat: what I need is a web application and database that allows users to purchase email accounts online.

    The sign up/self registration/auto email account creation from an available list of domains;

    Most likely have a Linux or FreeBSD+Apache+MySQL(postgre)+PHP system on a managed dedicated server.

    I will need to provide a mail platform API specification (i.e., the functions that will be made available to coders for administering accounts on my outsource vendor's messaging mail platform)

    How much would it take in time/cost to put this together - not the system, just the web app for signup and lookups?...Ok, the whole thing?

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    Originally posted by Kawartha
    I will need to provide a mail platform API specification (i.e., the functions that will be made available to coders for administering accounts on my outsource vendor's messaging mail platform)

    How much would it take in time/cost to put this together - not the system, just the web app for signup and lookups?...Ok, the whole thing?
    what do you mean API? what for? do you plan on offering reseller type accounts?

    the web app shouldnt take to long to code, you would just need to make an appropriate database schema and then a few small scripts. The hardest part in my opinion will be finding an email account creation script.

    Im not sure if your going to use a control panel or a plain linux box for your server so it depends.
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