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    Agressive FireFox advertisement.

    I came across the this site http://www.explorerdestroyer.com and I was amazed. I wondered if people would approve this. Do you?
    I'm not sure if this was any help, but I hope it didn't make you stupider.

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    Well... while it's generally not a bad intent to make people switch to a different browser I don't like to force people to do something they might not want. That's not better than what Microsoft is doing in a more or less subtle way. And also using the latter two methods proposed on this website is throwing us back into the years of "This browser is optimized for Internet Explorer 3/Netscape Navigator 4 and might not display properly in other browsers. Click here to download IE/NN".
    There's nothing wrong with showing your support or sympathy for Firefox but it shouldn't be as aggressive as the last two examples (plus it could make people avoid the website that has it if they find themselves somewhere else than the wanted to get or are annoyed by repeating demands.

    In a nutshell: I'd not want to see Mozilla/Firefox to condescend to Microsoft...

    But that's just my 0.02$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan
    Well... while it's generally not a bad intent to make people switch to a different browser...
    make them switch to the one and only correct browser you mean? Microsoft doesn't really force their browser or other programs on to you. They just add them to windows and think that most will be too lazy to try and find an alternative (which is quite true).

    Something interesting though is that in Gemany you can get paid for the "Dead serious/Todernst" option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marek_mar
    make them switch to the one and only correct browser you mean?
    Firefox is not the only standards compliant browser.

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    no browser is 100% standards compliant.

    I'm sure this site is a scam, I dont think even in the US this would be 'fair competition'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Error 404
    Firefox is not the only standards compliant browser.
    Don't tell that to me tell it to them. You have only one choice on these notifications.
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    I'm more of an objective kind of person and I'd rather have a notice that IE users shouldn't use IE anymore and switch to a different browser of their choice, not just Firefox. While Fx is my primary browser I think Opera is a good browser too and I like Safari... and even IE 5 for Mac is better than IE 6 for win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan
    and even IE 5 for Mac is better than IE 6 for win.
    And Microsoft officially killed off IE on the Mac completely in 2003. Perhaps they were trying to tell us something then about how they didn't care about web browsers any more.

    The only reason they are developing IE7 is because of the 600+ security holes in IE6 that couldn't be patched any other way.
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    That is NOT an advertisement by Firefox. It's 'some guy' that put that page up some months ago on his own.

    Firefox is not 100% compliant but it is, by far, the most compliant browser along with Opera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancyJ
    no browser is 100% standards compliant.
    Of course not. AFAIK, MathML and SVG aren't completely implemented in any form. Also, there is the Acid2 Test, which tests CSS compliance.
    Firefox and Opera are the most standards-compliant browsers that I've seen.
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    The latest version of Opera (v9) does pass the Acid2 Test if I recall correctly.
    Last edited by evo; 06-08-2006 at 08:04 AM.

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    In my opinion, free choice is more important than improving your users browser... I know people who choose to use IE after trying firefox, opera and netscape becuase they prefer it... I can't for the life of me see why, but they do, and its their choice.

    I think doing this is worse than the way Microsoft pushes IE on soem of its sites. At least they are now starting to consider other browsers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rpgfan3233
    Also, there is the Acid2 Test, which tests CSS compliance.
    Firefox and Opera are the most standards-compliant browsers that I've seen.
    Firefox fails the test, whereas Safari, Konqueror and Prince have got official releases that pass. iCab and Opera have public development builds that also pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by felgall
    And Microsoft officially killed off IE on the Mac completely in 2003. Perhaps they were trying to tell us something then about how they didn't care about web browsers any more.
    Tasman, the rendering engine in IE5/Mac, Office: mac, and MSN for OS X, has actually continued to be developed after IE5/Mac was discontinued, and has publicly been shown off several times having reached version 1.0, although none of those products have shipped. It supports, among others, CSS 2.1, CSS3 selectors and XHTML served as application/xhtml+xml.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Error 404
    Tasman, the rendering engine in IE5/Mac, Office: mac, and MSN for OS X, has actually continued to be developed after IE5/Mac was discontinued, and has publicly been shown off several times having reached version 1.0, although none of those products have shipped. It supports, among others, CSS 2.1, CSS3 selectors and XHTML served as application/xhtml+xml.
    had continued - past tense - MSN for OSX was killed off in May 2005
    "Why bother with accessibility? ... Because deep down you know that the web is attractive to people who aren't exactly like you." - Joe Clark

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    Quote Originally Posted by brothercake
    had continued - past tense - MSN for OSX was killed off in May 2005
    Tasman is still developed, even though the only product that uses it is Office: mac (where it would probably be sensible to start to consider moving over to WebCore).


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