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    Internet Explorer IE is Risky, what should we do?

    Hey guys, i dunno if anyone already covered this already, but in case not, I wanna hear your perspective on this. I mainly use IE and never thought to use another web browser.

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    The biggest security problem in IE, one that has plagued Microsoft and its customers for at least four years and is at the heart of the recent exploit, is a flaw that lets a Web site trick the browser into running an alien program in violation of its own security settings. In effect, an unknown program on a Web site is treated as though it were a trusted program on your computer. Compromised Web sites can covertly install programs ranging from nuisances that cause ad pop-ups to real threats that record your keystrokes, allowing the site to steal your passwords and account information.
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    An excellent excuse to try Mozilla Firefox (www.mozilla.org) or Opera 7.5 (www.opera.com). I much prefer Firefox, but some people really like Opera. As for Firefox, there are no publicly known remote root exploits or privacy holes AFAIK, and whenever there are, they are fixed within a few days (if not the same day) and the fixes are reflected in the nightlies. If it's serious enough, they immediately release a new point release. Security is excellent in Firefox.

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    with what you said, I feel like letting loose a whole load of anti-microsoft propaganda. but i'll refrain

    you'll be needing Firefox
    http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

    apart from excellent security, firefox is made by peple who's primary concern is the user, not money, it has a built in pop up blocker, built in search bar (for whatever engine you may choose), lots of extensions and themes. it's lovely.

    does anyone have an URL of a firefox vs IE article?
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    Quote Originally Posted by whackaxe
    does anyone have an URL of a firefox vs IE article?
    June 17, 2004

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    I've been using Firefox for quite a while and have fallen in love with it. I've vowed to never go back to IE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meltdown
    I've been using Firefox for quite a while and have fallen in love with it. I've vowed to never go back to IE.
    I completely concur. Especially with the developers toolbar in 0.9.

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    Thanks guys, I've downloaded Firefox and it amazing, cool features. Its funny that not a lot of ppl know about IE's security problems, and they go about day to day, enjoying IE worry free.
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    told ya so now spread the word
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    Thumbs up

    I try to avoid anti M$ propoganda as well, but the truth is, they are starting to slip more and more, and their eventual downfall from the top thats been predicted for years, is closer to reality, but still really, really far away.

    Spyware is one of those things that came in under the radar, an overnight problem that nobody really predicted, and IE has never been truly equipped to battle it. Newer browsers are being designed with spyware in mind. IE's deep roots means that significant code work will need to be done (that most likely will be overlooked until the last minute, as always) to prevent the nasty effects of spyware.

    The only good thing about spyware is, it could be Firefox's ticket to the big time. Personally, I love firefox and would like to see it flourish into a a mature product, and I think this is one thing that will help a lot

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    I had Mozilla already, but downloaded Firefox to give it a try, and I was amazed! Nice clean interface, TABS!, fast browsing, customizing options galore...Incredible!

    I know about the problems of IE...less standards compliant, security holes, etc. But, I've always liked it. I like IE's look and feel more than Navigator's (that's just me). But now, I'm starting to reconsider that standpoint. Firefox's look and feel is quite nice, and works a lot better. Plus, Mozilla and Opera look and work better than IE (I recently downloaded them as well, so I could test my website in more browsers).

    I guess the main problem with IE is that it's inextricably (spelling?) built into Windows, and can't be removed. And because of this, it has a huge market share (the lion's share). And that's unfortunate.

    However, I'm thinking I might make Firefox my default browser for a while, and see how that wroks.

    P.S. Since Mozilla and Firefox are both web browsers, and come fromt he same company, is it necessary to use both? Or can I remove Mozilla and just use Firefox?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Palin
    I had Mozilla already, but downloaded Firefox to give it a try, and I was amazed! Nice clean interface, TABS!, fast browsing, customizing options galore...Incredible!

    I know about the problems of IE...less standards compliant, security holes, etc. But, I've always liked it. I like IE's look and feel more than Navigator's (that's just me). But now, I'm starting to reconsider that standpoint. Firefox's look and feel is quite nice, and works a lot better. Plus, Mozilla and Opera look and work better than IE (I recently downloaded them as well, so I could test my website in more browsers).
    I can't do anything about the 'feel', but be sure to check out the themes list (well, the main one at least, it's only one of many I suppose) to make Firefox anything you want it to be, with basically a single-click.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Palin
    However, I'm thinking I might make Firefox my default browser for a while, and see how that wroks.
    Go for it. You might just like it! Seriously, after switching, most people never look back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant Palin
    P.S. Since Mozilla and Firefox are both web browsers, and come fromt he same company, is it necessary to use both? Or can I remove Mozilla and just use Firefox?
    Yeah, I think Firefox is actually more popular than Mozilla now. It certainly is among the bloggers who I frequent. I just love the fact that it's so lightweight. I never wanted an email client, WYSIWYG editor and all that. The only advantage of Mozilla over Firefox that I can think of is its 1.7 status. Nevertheless, Firefox will hit the big 1.0 pretty soon.
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    Well, I've had Firefox as my default browser for a few days now, and I'll tell you, I like it! It's fast, it doesn't crash like IE does, and the look and feel is great!

    Well, I guess you've got another pro-Firefox and anti-IE in your ranks!
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    Of course you all need to run out and get the Mozilla and Firefox updates released today. It seems there's a bug in those browsers that can be exploited on Windows systems.

    Bugs are everywhere and this probably won't be the last problem like this ever found in Gecko based browser but without the integration into the OS and other features that IE sports the Gecko based browsers are a lot less likely to host as many of this kind of bugs.
    Check out the Forum Search. It's the short path to getting great results from this forum.

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    Hey Roy, thanks for the news.

    Can anyone tell me how to install (or where to put) the "shellblock.xpi" extension?

    There seemed to be no instructions on the update site...

    Security Update - ShellBlock

    The Install Now link title says "Install Shellblock 1.0 (Right-click to Download)"

    Ok, I have the file... so, then what?
    Last edited by neofibril; 07-10-2004 at 02:47 AM. Reason: Clarification, hopefully...


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