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    Google's GDrive to arrive this year

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    Google Drive, or Gdrive as it is better known, has to be the most anticipated Google product so far. When it arrives, Gdrive will likely cause a major paradigm shift in how we use computers and bring Google one step closer to dethroning Windows on your desktop.
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    This sounds very practical. I’ve been looking for some free backup storage space for a while (without file size limitations). However, I would never use it to have sensitive data there that the functionality of my computer or workflow relies on. I can only cite one of the annotators on that page:
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronald Stepp @ http://tgdaily.com/content/view/41094/140/1/1/

    3 Reasons this is R E T A R D E D.

    And those just off the top of my head.

    1) Internet Connection goes down.
    2) Google goes out of business or system goes down.
    3) I'm somewhere with NO connection to internet.

    While online backups are another great option for maintaining my computer, it certainly isn't something I would EVER just hand over everything on my system to.

    Need keys for your truck? Heck no, just sign up for GDrive II, and they'll remotely unlock your truck. Oh.. cell phone lost signal? Call AAA.

    Play World of Warcraft online? Sure, now you just have to download the client everytime you get ready to play, upload any new patches to GDrive, etc. Enjoy!

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    yes, i want to keep all my files out there so the authorities can violate my civil rights in a faster and more efficient manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgod View Post
    yes, i want to keep all my files out there so the authorities can violate my civil rights in a faster and more efficient manner.
    Yes. They're watching your every move. They have one server sitting in a room dedicated to users in your area and a team of individuals that will be skimming over your information just to check on you.

    The day that happens is the last day Google is in business.

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    if you knew me you might not see that as so far fetched :\

    i have quite literally had PD and BATF agents show up at work to "talk" to me before...


    if they say i can take that space and make a truecrypt partition or something we're in business. i dunno, guess i'm ignorant of what must be some sort of magical security standard that this will be held to.


    how long does google keep user search records again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgod View Post
    yes, i want to keep all my files out there so the authorities can violate my civil rights in a faster and more efficient manner.
    No one said that your backups stored on there had to be unencrypted...

    The idea is kind of nice for storing backups of some data but I wouldn't use it as my primary data storage system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgod View Post
    i have quite literally had PD and BATF agents show up at work to "talk" to me before...
    What did you do?!
    how long does google keep user search records again?
    I can't remember exactly. I believe it's been shortened to 90 days or something less.

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    i bought a whole bunch of pistols in one day. they wanted to see if i was reselling them to gang members :x

    i'm no stranger to talking to the authorities for one reason or another... not that i'm terribly proud of that. bleh.



    anyway, as long as one has control over the space then so be it. would be nice for off site backup... but i'm hesitant to hand over any more control than that. hate to be dependant on the service and all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohgod View Post
    i bought a whole bunch of pistols in one day. they wanted to see if i was reselling them to gang members :x
    Surely this information would be given to law enforcement anyway? I care not for gun laws, but I would guess that it would be quite silly for this not to happen.

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    hate to be dependant on the service and all...
    Agreed.

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    We depend on services all the time. I depend on my ISP, their email service, my online stock trading, note taking, and more.

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    of those uses, none is crucial with the exception of the stock trading. and that has risks all of its own which I believe out-weigh those of a server company going bust.

    my view is that if your data is important that you don't want other companies to host it/have access to it, then get your own dedicated/stand-alone server.

    It's simple economics: if your data is private then a dedicated server is a justifiable expense. if the expense is too high, then maybe the data isn't worth much.

    But I would be very hesitant about letting a 3rd party company have the data just sitting there not only from a security standpoint but because the host company might go out of business.

    And, if anyone thinks that can't happen, then where have you been for the last three months.


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    This is something which has been going on a while. Not sure if this was covered a while ago on this forum or another before i found codingforums.

    A load of people are moving towards this cloud computer architectures.

    Personaly i dont like it, a lot of the big boys in computing though are moving towards this. Expect to see a lot more cloud storage and processing
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    I don't see anything bad about cloud computing per se. What it is used for - the actual application of it - is where we can have concerns.

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    i work on an IVR platform. cloud computing to dynamically create and run VRUs based on call volume makes sense. if we need the processing power it's there, if not... we're not paying for it. makes that profit margin just a lil fatter.

    but for individuals? i don't see it. we do rely on services every day, true... but how many people have the resources to set up the infrastructure for an ISP? however, anyone can buy a laptop. risk benefit isn't there.


    but maybe in 10 years we'll look back and i'll have been the guy laughing and saying no no... the world is flat!

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    how long does google keep user search records again?
    I can't remember exactly. I believe it's been shortened to 90 days or something less.
    From what I remember they reduced how long they kept a segment of your ip in memory. So 83.147.XXX might be stored. Then after I think 9 months they chop it down to 83.XXX.XXX. But the area you're in is still kept so they could still track you down if they really REALLY wanted to. Also I hear they cache other things anyway so it doesn't matter how long they keep your data.

    Anyway about the actual article. I wouldn't trust this at all, in the UK at least powers as small as local councils are allowed free access to tap your phone, read your emails and intercept your mail at any time they like. In sweden a wiretapping law was passed recently that allows any business of any type to tap phones, intercept emails and such with permission. I'm a paranoid person so I run my own mail server now, and use my mobile with a different name for certain calls. Might be a bit extreme but at the rate our basic rights are being violated these days it feels safer (I still browse with a VPN).

    Having data stored on Googles' server is just like hanging your data on a fishing line for any group with enough power to take a free peek at.
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