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    igoogle?

    [EDIT] Wow nevermind... I failed to see the "Classic Home" link at the top.

    I just decided to swap from google haxor to normal google, and I got some bloated igoogle page. WTF? What happened to the simple page google used to have?

    Is there any way to get a normal google page without all the bloat igoogle gives? (Entering http://www.google.com/ routes me to this garbage.)

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    Well, you signed up for it and logged into it so what were you expecting? It's not bloat to those of us who use all that. Google Calendar, Docs, Reader, etc. are essential tools. Don't want all that? Did you see the 'sign out' link at the top right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine View Post
    It's not bloat to those of us who use all that. Google Calendar, Docs, Reader, etc. are essential tools.
    You shouldn’t put your entire life in the hands of one company.

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    I don't. That's why I don't use Microsoft products.

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    Google ain’t that much better with all their customized search, ads, whatever. They check your browsing habits, they have your contact info and the contact info of whoever you have in your address book.
    I’m not saying that they are planning a huge conspiracy. Just don’t give anyone too much power to gain complete control over you(r life).

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    Just don’t give anyone too much power to gain complete control over you(r life).
    How would they do that? There's that little "sign off" button they have. No one controls my life. Well, except my wife...and the kids...and the dog...and the cats....

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine View Post
    How would they do that? There's that little "sign off" button they have. No one controls my life. Well, except my wife...and the kids...and the dog...and the cats....
    I heard this many times, but is not true. If I work with you an you consider this things essential, I'm forced one way or another to use it.
    VIPStephan don't mention this but when you said "I agree" in TOS for google you already accept that they can process your mail and extract information,
    As VIP said, I don't say that they do, but try to understand that they can do what they want. Same apply to yahoo and other company. BTW I don't see any difference between microsoft and google or yahoo,

    best regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by oesxyl View Post
    I heard this many times, but is not true. If I work with you an you consider this things essential, I'm forced one way or another to use it.
    I took it that, because I use Google, that they now control my data and I don't. I'm saying that's not true and anytime I choose to quit them, I will.

    While some say they, and all the others, use my data, that's not true. No one is sifting through my email or docs looking for information about what my company is doing beyond what helps them with search and advertising. But so do WalMart and Sears and JCPenney. I don't care.

    Now, tell me when they start giving my data to a competitor, then I'll be upset, but there's still that 'sign off' button in the upper right hand corner. And I'm sure it will be easy enough to find a lawyer to take my case for free. THAT is what Google, and the others, would NOT want to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drhowarddrfine View Post
    I took it that, because I use Google, that they now control my data and I don't. I'm saying that's not true and anytime I choose to quit them, I will.

    While some say they, and all the others, use my data, that's not true. No one is sifting through my email or docs looking for information about what my company is doing beyond what helps them with search and advertising. But so do WalMart and Sears and JCPenney. I don't care.

    Now, tell me when they start giving my data to a competitor, then I'll be upset, but there's still that 'sign off' button in the upper right hand corner. And I'm sure it will be easy enough to find a lawyer to take my case for free. THAT is what Google, and the others, would NOT want to happen.
    Yes, of course – the best way not to get spammed, get viruses, or get spied upon is to just not switch on the computer. But as long as you’re online this is all possible. Companies wanna make money, and they do if they know your desires and are prepared to fulfill them. And if they are really after your money, they “impose” a desire upon you (i. e. they make you believe you need something, just so you buy it from them).

    A company that does everything (email, docs, calendar, address book, video, shopping…) can do everything to you without you even noticing it because it all feels so natural and well integrated.

    But let’s not get into an argument. My point was just: Diversity over monopoly. Better use several different services for different tasks than an all-in-one solution.

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    Totally disagree. Use the best tool for the job. The minute any company gets known for controlling your data and you is the last day that company is in business.


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