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    Negative karma due to grudges

    So I have really bad Reputation on here due to a few people hating my guts. So they continue to lower me.

    I've been helping people for years on here, I have many thanks from people and continue to get them.

    I've gotten yelled at for things such as these:

    -Stop posting unhelpful information, you do this in every thread (by moderator)

    -You don't even know how to code, shut up (Been coding 4 languages for 4 years)

    -Every post I see you make is really stupid and not needed, you need to leave the forum (Regular member)

    If one argument happened, they will continued to bring you down as long as you remain on this forum. I wish I could start over with a new name on here, but look at my post count and thanks, I don't want to build it up all over again. I've completed many dozens of posts from people and answered their questions, and asked a few myself.

    ALSO once someone gets an attitude, a half dozen more join in and drop your reputation to the ground. We need a way to hide our reputation or disable it when it's abused.
    Rowsdower! has accused me of having mental problems, and the administrator allowed it. What a great forum huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    -Stop posting unhelpful information, you do this in every thread (by moderator)

    -You don't even know how to code, shut up (Been coding 4 languages for 4 years)

    -Every post I see you make is really stupid and not needed, you need to leave the forum (Regular member)
    How do you know if it was a moderator or not? Looking at your rep, no staff members have given you rep one way or the other. And no one signed their name in the rep comments either. No one told you to leave the forum. And no one told you to shut up. Don't paraphrase/sensationalize comments if you are going to post them.

    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    If one argument happened, they will continued to bring you down as long as you remain on this forum. I wish I could start over with a new name on here, but look at my post count and thanks, I don't want to build it up all over again. I've completed many dozens of posts from people and answered their questions, and asked a few myself.
    The reputation system won't let someone keep giving one person reputation (be it positive or negative). It will tell them they need to give rep to other people before they can do it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    ALSO once someone gets an attitude, a half dozen more join in and drop your reputation to the ground. We need a way to hide our reputation or disable it when it's abused.
    I can't see which posts the reps are tied to but I only see one case where that might have happened, back in June of 2009 and it was 3 people.
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    Hello masterofollies,
    Surely you mis-remember! Maybe you're thinking of a different board?
    It's rare that any flaming goes on here for more than a couple posts at the longest, and then it's usually someone telling someone to stop exactly the kind of post you're describing.

    I think anyone that actually tells someone they're stupid and need to leave the forum needs to have a talk with a moderator about manners.

    Can you hunt down those threads and post a link so we can see them?
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    @oracle - Don't accuse me. I recently posted correct codes in a thread to someone, and one of the moderators replied trying to make me look stupid and to stop posting unhelpful information and that I keep doing it.

    What was the problem? The problem was, I didn't do all of the work and make my coding fit into his coding. I posted it and said it needs to be customized. It was exactly what the guy needed, but I didn't take the time to change every letter and every comma to meet his script. So the moderator flips out at me.

    I have been told to leave the forum in the past, sometime last year. I know what is said to me. I need to keep better track of things, I am now going to keep screenshots of things, ex-specially things said by moderators.

    So don't accuse me of paraphrase/sensationalize comments. Ask me to define what I am talking about, to give you more information.

    I never posted this topic to start any kind of argument, I was merely posting that I was sick of having a bad reputation on this forum, and wish it were different.

    @Excavator - It's been going on for years, I don't know where to look. I just need to keep better track of things. From now on I will bookmark and screenshot stuff.

    I mean look at my infractions. The flaming one was reversed, because people attacked me, and I defended myself which I should have ignored them, but it was reversed because it wasn't my fault.
    Rowsdower! has accused me of having mental problems, and the administrator allowed it. What a great forum huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    I need to keep better track of things, I am now going to keep screenshots of things, ex-specially things said by moderators.
    Save links to the threads/posts instead of screenshots. A lot easier to just send someone a link than a screenshot.

    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    So don't accuse me of paraphrase/sensationalize comments. Ask me to define what I am talking about, to give you more information.
    You were specifically talking about your reputation, so I assumed those comments were in regards to your reputation. Which is why I didn't ask you to define what you were talking about, your original post seemed pretty clear. If you in fact received those as posted replies to your posts, I retract what I said about sensationalizing.
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    @masteroffolloies,
    Don't worry about it. It means nothing. You'll get downvoted because some people don't want to hear the truth. They like to be led around by their noses and do what everybody else does. If you call a spade a spade someone will downvote you whether they know what they're talking about or not and there's nothing anyone can or will do about it. Some people get upvoted cause they said they like butterflies and long walks on the beach.

    Just a couple days ago, someone said something technically outrageous and unhelpful on another board. I called the guy out on it but was downgraded and my post deleted, not for what I said, but because I directed it at that person. The mod told me he had even PM'ed that poster a warning for doing that. iow, the mod PM'ed him saying essentially the same thing I posted but I received the black mark.

    So I pay no attention to such things and just now noticed I have the same rep as you. I don't know anything about your postings but, as Einstein said:
    Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocre minds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oracleguy View Post
    Save links to the threads/posts instead of screenshots. A lot easier to just send someone a link than a screenshot.



    You were specifically talking about your reputation, so I assumed those comments were in regards to your reputation. Which is why I didn't ask you to define what you were talking about, your original post seemed pretty clear. If you in fact received those as posted replies to your posts, I retract what I said about sensationalizing.
    Only problem with saving links is that the posts can be altered. Like if a moderator was in trouble, he/she could edit it to look like the other person was in the wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    @oracle - Don't accuse me. I recently posted correct codes in a thread to someone, and one of the moderators replied trying to make me look stupid and to stop posting unhelpful information and that I keep doing it.

    What was the problem? The problem was, I didn't do all of the work and make my coding fit into his coding. I posted it and said it needs to be customized. It was exactly what the guy needed, but I didn't take the time to change every letter and every comma to meet his script. So the moderator flips out at me.
    Drama queen. You're way too sensitive mate. I can remember that one and he didn't try to make you look stupid. He merely told you to stop posting reference code, (which did bear absolutely no resemblance to the O.P's existing code, might I add), without mentioning the fact that it was just reference code and would need utterly modifying to suit the O.P's needs.


    Edit: Just noticed. I must be getting subtle and/or slipping in my old age. Mine is actually a positive value. Must try harder to be completely tactless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattF View Post
    Drama queen. You're way too sensitive mate. I can remember that one and he didn't try to make you look stupid. He merely told you to stop posting reference code, (which did bear absolutely no resemblance to the O.P's existing code, might I add), without mentioning the fact that it was just reference code and would need utterly modifying to suit the O.P's needs.


    Edit: Just noticed. I must be getting subtle and/or slipping in my old age. Mine is actually a positive value. Must try harder to be completely tactless.
    You are in a way calling me names I.E. attacking me. I am just having a discussion, no need to get upset.

    Sometimes I fully code scripts for people, sometimes I post things from the PHP Manual. At times it's better to let them learn on their own or they will never learn and depend on help the rest of their life (I know people like this such as Johnathan). If they don't understand after I posted something, then I am inclined to help them by doing it for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    You are in a way calling me names I.E. attacking me. I am just having a discussion, no need to get upset.
    Now see, that's exactly what I mean. You are way too dramatic. Seriously, you really do need to either loosen up or the only way your sensibilities won't be offended is if you never go online or speak to anyone ever again. There's neither need nor reason to be so sensitive.

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    I just told you to stop calling me names, I defend myself, and you keep going. Whats going to happen next? A moderator is going to delete my post and give me an infraction because I asked you to stop.
    Rowsdower! has accused me of having mental problems, and the administrator allowed it. What a great forum huh?

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    I haven't called you any name(s).


    Edit: I'm assuming you think my mentioning that you seem to be a bit of a drama queen is 'name calling'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    Only problem with saving links is that the posts can be altered. Like if a moderator was in trouble, he/she could edit it to look like the other person was in the wrong.
    I seriously doubt any of the moderators here would do that. That would be pretty unethical. Besides if they did go back and edit posts, vB keeps all the older versions of a post and lets you go back and look at each revision. It will even diff versions of the posts for you.

    On the other side of the coin, the problem with screenshots is the same, they can be easily altered or faked. Not that I am suggesting you'd do that but it could be done.

    Edit: Is there a particular thread that motivated you to start this thread? A specific example could be helpful.
    Last edited by oracleguy; 03-28-2010 at 08:30 PM.
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    Like oracle said, moderators can see deleted posts, even if they're by moderators. Posts are also versioned, so we can check every single edit if need be. These are very serious accusations you're throwing about and require hard evidence for us to action.

    Please note that in MattF's comment, the offending word was followed up by an image which indicates that he was joking.

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    The written word is harder to get meanings across than the spoken word. Body language, tone, inflection and lots other input all help the spoken word be interpreted much easier than the written word. Little things that most people take as a joke may bother others though it does seem like some people just decide to be offended no matter what is said or how it’s worded.

    Rather than asking why people are attacking you, maybe you should question why these apparently small offenses are bothering you so much masterofollies. I would still like to see the thread where anyone told you to shut up or leave the forum.

    One thing I know, you will have no joy trying to change how people treat you. The only thing you can do is modify your reaction to how you are treated.
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