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    My Announcement

    I have been getting some flak to some of the stuff I do for people. Either coding help, or giving people my secure login scripts to use for free.

    I feel I do not need to defend myself against this stuff. Instead I will no longer be giving coding advice or help to anyone on here. So please don't PM me for help anymore either. I am done.

    Yes only about 60% - 70% of my coding help, actually helped, I am still learning myself and feel I have enough experience to hold my own. I do like testing new stuff, what can it hurt by experimenting and suggesting ways of patching codes? Nobody is 100% perfect, (even tho Fou Lu is awfully close, dang you )

    But anyways, just putting this out there. I will still be asking my own help for some harder complex scripts I go through on my websites.

    Thank you all to whoever reads this.
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    I'm sorry if you feel you've been attacked for helping people out (I know of one thread which this occurred in). I think as one of the more senior members, it's unavoidable that you attract some critics along the way. As long as you always remain polite in your response to criticism, I think eventually you will win these people over as well.

    Regardless of whether you decide to stay on CF or not (I hope you do), I hope you don't let a few critical comments affect what you're passionate about in life.
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    I will remain for the help that I need on my scripts, just not going to try to help anyone else. It will really hurt my learning curve also.

    Just wish stronger action was taken against these people so we can ultimately remove them from this forum forever. You get those people who just complain and beg in every one of their posts. We don't need those type of people. We are suppose to be professionals here.
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    If these people have personally attacked you, we have a problem. If they have attacked your code, then there's nothing technically wrong with what they're doing. If you felt you have been insulted, did you use the Report This Post function? This usually draws a moderator's attention fairly quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    I will remain for the help that I need on my scripts, just not going to try to help anyone else. It will really hurt my learning curve also.

    Just wish stronger action was taken against these people so we can ultimately remove them from this forum forever. You get those people who just complain and beg in every one of their posts. We don't need those type of people. We are suppose to be professionals here.
    Come on, seriously? How does that help the community?

    Anyway, depending on who this is or how many attacks you have been under, why not just add the offenders to your ignore list? How are you being given flak for offering a free script, anyway? I just don't get this...
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    @Cyan, sometimes it's another coder trying to help with the someones questions, other times it's the person asking the question that gets rude. Like one person needed help and I supplied the coding needed to fix the problem (tested and worked) and he said something to this extent "masterofollies your stupid coding is worthless to me, stop replying to my threads".

    Someone wanted help with making a secure login script for an administrator control panel. I've made a dozen of these, it's one of my strongest points. I told him that I would give him one of mine, all he needs to do is put his database info in it and it's good to go. Others replied laughing saying how all I wanted was a thank you post from it. Which I don't mind being thanked, but I like helping people. It wasn't for the thanks, it was to hope someone who is stuck with a problem. How would you feel if you needed help and every person ignored you? You'd never come back here again.

    @Rows, it doesn't help the community, but I don't feel I need to be treated like that half the time. I'd rather just hide in the shadows.

    I didn't know about the ignore list. When I first came to this forum a long time ago, I just jumped into it, haven't looked at all of my options. It wasn't about getting flak about the script its self, it was "helping a beggar" as some people call it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    it doesn't help the community, but I don't feel I need to be treated like that half the time. I'd rather just hide in the shadows.
    I have to say I rather agree with CyanLight. You really should report those people that are being rude, rather than let them beat you down to the point where you no longer want to help people in the forums.

    As moderators, we can issue an infraction to people like that. It's called "flaming and insulting other members" and is very much frowned upon. You would be helping us -- and yourself -- by reporting such posts.

    Please don't let those people drag you down. You are a valuable member of these forums, and I would hate to see you stop helping the members here because of the actions of a few people.
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    Like one person needed help and I supplied the coding needed to fix the problem (tested and worked) and he said something to this extent "masterofollies your stupid coding is worthless to me, stop replying to my threads".
    do as they ask then. Stop replying to them.

    But please do not let that stop you from helping others who do appreciate it because then that one individual - who flamed you or whatever - has had an effect on the whole of this site and its forums, and on many poeple too and that is way to much power for someone like that.

    Their actions - as reported by you - say more about them (in a negative way), than it could ever have been negative about you.

    Keep at it.

    If you only ask here for help and don't give anything back, you will defeat the object of these forums and we'll all lose out. And will this 'losing out', be just because of one 'less than grateful person' or because of the reaction to such a person? more likely the latter

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    It's like the physics concept of 'cause and effect'. That person who annoyed you controls the cause of your annoyance. But you have control of how it affects you. If you react as you seem to have considered, you will have let them control your reaction too. Better to consider this thread as the letting off of steam and get back to being just as you were.


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    @Vinyl, I ignored them in the past, didn't want any people pissed at me for reporting them. But after the many years I have been here, it's built up.

    @Bazz, Yes but even tho my coding fixes exactly what they want, why do they need to tell me off and accept help from someone else?

    It'd just be nice to either have more mod's so they can review every topic, or stronger enforce it.

    EDIT: and this is my opinion, not trying to tell you all what to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    @Vinyl, I ignored them in the past, didn't want any people pissed at me for reporting them. But after the many years I have been here, it's built up.
    Posts can be reported by anyone. They can be pissed at you if they want, but in reality, if one of their posts is reported, it could be reported by anyone.

    @Bazz, Yes but even tho my coding fixes exactly what they want, why do they need to tell me off and accept help from someone else?
    Some people are just jerks by nature. It's unfortunate, but that's life.

    It'd just be nice to either have more mod's so they can review every topic, or stronger enforce it.

    EDIT: and this is my opinion, not trying to tell you all what to do.
    We mods look at quite a few topics, but the forums are so large that we can't look at every single thread/post. It helps to have other forum members be our eyes when we might otherwise miss a situation that needed some sort of correction.

    Lest I sound totally insensitive to your plight, masterofollies, I've been the target of others' wrath/flaming on occasion myself, and I know from personal experience that it isn't a comfortable spot to be in. It undermines your self-confidence and hurts your feelings. I understand that. I think it helps to vent your frustration when it gets to the point that it obviously has with you.

    Someone said it earlier in this thread, but you give power to the flamers/insulters when you yourself buy into what they're saying about you. You've said yourself that the code works that you've given other people. Focus on that, not whether they like it or not. That's what really matters.
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    I guess what I am trying to say is this. It only takes a single jerk to ruin me. If someone says something against me or my coding, and a dozen people see that, what do they think? They think I do not know what I am talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterofollies View Post
    It only takes a single jerk to ruin me.
    to runi you? I don't understand how they could do that.

    If someone says something against me or my coding, and a dozen people see that, what do they think? They think I do not know what I am talking about.
    No, not all all - certainly from my perspective.

    If you write code and someone trashes you over it, I too will be able to see the code. I can decide for myself whether the code is good but, more importantly - I will be able to see that you tried to help the other person or at least try to point them in the right direction. That in itself is a lot more constructive than them trashing you.

    So, with them simply trashing you it means nothing - except to show them up. they asked for help: they got some, and then they trash it. not worth helping them again.

    Sometimes I shy away from posting because I know that someone else who is regularly around here will post a much less verbose answer. short code is good and easier to maintain, long term. But I will help if I actually do know the answer or if they have got bogged down and need a prompt to remind them what they are aiming for and also, if I think I know the answer. If my answer is wrong or not as efficient as it could be, I too will have learned when someone else who is more experienced points out my errors/shortcomings/inexperience. After all, aren't we here to try to learn?

    This thread reminds me of a time >= 6 months ago when I was trashed and criticised. I had asked for help with some js and I received some much appreciated help from this guy.

    In my subsequent post, I thanked them but asked if it could be made to do another bit, which had been part of my initial request in my OP. Anyway, he trashed me for asking for one thing and then for wasting his time when I wanted something else. He should have read my OP slower I think.

    Anyway, I pondered reported the post simply because he had been harsh/ott and plainly wrong in his outburst. I haven't seen him about since and can't even recall his name.

    Best to let the flamers burn themselves out. Don't let it get to you.

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    it's the internet, man. get some thicker skin. kinda silly to get worked up with what some fool has to say on an internet forum. it certainly isn't worth the boost in blood pressure.

    just tell them your dad's code can beat up their dad's code. even if they don't see how goofy they look, everyone else will haha.

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    Last night I posted a PHP script in PHP forum under snippets. It works fine and is secure and encrypted, just a bit messy. Easy to clean up. It's a simple Administrator Control Panel. Complete with register, login, logout, admin page, css file, and the secure checker. Hope that helps your community.
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    Told you all I couldn't do anything right, seem now people hate my "Simple" administrator control panel snippet.

    Simple Administrator Control Panel

    Aerospace and I haven't gotten along good because of a past argument, so I was expecting that.

    I did forget to mention to delete registeracc.php afterwards, but there is NOTHING harmful about it. It's a base for people to add onto, and to learn. Newbies making a control panel for the first time is going to be completely confused with random salt and stuff. This is a simple basic one to get the job done. If they have experience they can add extra security to it.

    See? I tried to help your community and my efforts were in vain.
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