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    Question about "thank user for this helpful post"

    Hello,

    I do have a question. Some very kind users are helping me correcting my English.

    What is the real purpose of the button "thank user for this helpful post" ?
    Is it just to thanks the user or to highlight the most useful answers to solve the problem ?

    Well, should I use the button for those kind of responses or not ? I guess not because of the second reason, but I'd like to be sure

    Thank you in advance
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    My Guide to Thanking Users:

    1. Typically, the "Thank User" button is used for people that provide a very detailed and explanatory response to your question that helps you solve your problem.
    2. If they continue to help you through your questions until your thread is eventually resolved, it can be courteous to give them positive reputation (clicking the scales icon underneath their name).
    3. If the person goes above and beyond to continue to help you with this problem and others you have, then you can nominate the user for a helpful member award.


    This is, of course, all up to your discretion. These are just all different ways in which you can thank someone for helping and there are really no set guidelines. Above is just a format that I would personally follow.

    Also, to answer your question a bit more directly, since thanking a user shows up on a thread, I would use it for replies that relate to the original post. However, using the Reputation icon would be appropriate for those that go out of their way to help you with you English grammar as it doesn't tie into the thread and you can also send a comment with it.

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    Some of the older members might drop in and give you better information, but here's how it looks to me. I use the "Thank User..." when the post is either a helpful answer to a question I've posted, or an answer to someone else's question that provides me some useful information that I wouldn't have found on my own.

    There's also reputation. Those little white scales at the bottom of the username box on the left allow you to influence members' standing within the forums, but it doesn't seem to be the same as a "thanks". I think reputation is related to the green/purple/red boxes right under your "Thanks" count. If someone always ignores forum posting rules, for example, they might be red because someone gave them bad reputation. If someone provides a lot of help or helpful answers, they might be green (or lots of greens) because they were given positive reputation.

    So, if it was me, I'd give reputation for the English help if the question itself was not about English, but someone with more forum experience may come in an give you better advice.

    EDIT: Oops. See, I delay in posting my response and someone comes in with better information. I'm glad I'm at least near what Shane said, though.
    Last edited by tomws; 05-15-2008 at 06:03 PM. Reason: added info

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    Speaking of the thank you button, anyone think that message should be removed or edited? As mentioned, measuring the effort of a post is subjective. I find that a lot of new users would just thank someone regardless of how helpful the post (i.e. one liner posts that don't require much effort). Whereas when I see that message I sometimes hesitate to thank someone because while it was helpful, it might have not require much effort. So one might argue that taking the time to post a reply could be quite an effort lol. And well maybe some people don't even read that message and just click ok lol.

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    It's one of the two factors currently used to nominate the Most Helpful Member. Specifically:

    The top 3 "Most Thanked" members for the same period will each receive an additional 4, 4, and 5 votes added to his total. Note that this is different than the Top 3 Most Thanked members of all time as seen on the following page; it's limited to just the nominations time period.
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    Thank you all for your quick and helpful answers.

    You've made things clearer about reputation and comfort me in my way to see the "thank user for this helpful post" button. Special thanks to
    TheShaner and tomws for they complete answer (but where is the "thank user for this helpful post" in that forum ?! ).

    PeaTearGriffin, you bring a good question about how to judge an answer; as TheShaner said I think this is finally up to our discretion (I've learned a new English's expression, yeahhh )

    Thank you WA, I had already read about the most Helpful Member but didn't exactly understand how it was working to select the winner (I'm having a hard time understanding subtleties because of the effort that demand to me understanding English writing).

    I think I've found a good place on this forum to spend a good time and learn with friendly people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candygirl View Post
    I do have a question. Some very kind users are helping me correcting my English.
    The funny (or sad) thing is that many native speakers’ English is worse than the English foreigners use, and they can’t even help you improve it…
    But I like to learn about colloquial expressions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIPStephan View Post
    The funny (or sad) thing is that many native speakers’ English is worse than the English foreigners use, and they can’t even help you improve it…
    Sad, indeed.
    At least we have you to learn from.

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    Rather roughly, around 1/3 of people who receive a (useful) answer in the forum make use of the "Thank You" button. Another 1/3 give thanks verbally in a post - "Many thanks for your help". The last 1/3 just take the assistance and walk away.

    Some of the latter category concern me. There are at least two people who regularly ask questions in the JavaScript forum, in one case with over 500 posts and the other over 200, who have given 0 thanks. One of them at least is a professional web developer. They never use the words "Please" or "Thank You" and post their questions in a pretty curt form, as though the forum was some sort of free public service which they can draw on as though it was social security. "Here is my problem - fix it for me".

    My policy is not to respond to their threads. But I have the idea that people who regularly gain a lot of benefit from volunteers in the forum, but who cannot be bothered with normal politeness, should be penalised in some way. I suggest that anyone who has used the "Thank You" button fewer than (say) 1/25 of the number of his posts should be kindly invited to seek assistance elsewhere in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    I suggest that anyone who has used the "Thank You" button fewer than (say) 1/25 of the number of his posts should be kindly invited to seek assistance elsewhere in future.
    I've had near 1000 posts but have only seeked help one or two times, so I have few thanks, as have many regular contributers who do this mainly because they like helping people but, recognizably, can get it done quickly themselves. Should we be penalized for that? There isn't a ratio of help:seeking help...

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    1/25 means 4%

    Quote Originally Posted by CyanLight View Post
    I've had near 1000 posts but have only seeked help one or two times, so I have few thanks, as have many regular contributers who do this mainly because they like helping people but, recognizably, can get it done quickly themselves. Should we be penalized for that? There isn't a ratio of help:seeking help...
    you are about 1%,

    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    I suggest that anyone who has used the "Thank You" button fewer than (say) 1/25 of the number of his posts should be kindly invited to seek assistance elsewhere in future.
    you must have 3260/25 about 130 thanks and have 25,

    Both of you help me and a lot of people many times,

    This is ask for help vs. giving help. I answer because I want and I don't think you answer for thanks.

    regards

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    Also, another thing to consider is that the Thank You feature is relatively new for codingforums. I have over 1100 posts, but most of those were made before the Thank You feature was around, and I only have a couple of Thanks given, since I have not been on these forums as much recently due to college during the school year, and now that I am back for the summer, I am mainly trying to solve other's problems, as opposed to posting my own.

    I think that there are those who will be thankful and appreciative, and there are those who will not. There's no way to tell, but if someone has a definite history of rudeness, you can always choose not to help them in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oesxyl View Post
    1/25 means 4&#37;


    you are about 1%,


    you must have 3260/25 about 130 thanks and have 25,

    Both of you help me and a lot of people many times,

    This is ask for help vs. giving help. I answer because I want and I don't think you answer for thanks.

    regards
    I should have said Number of Posts / (("Thanks Given" + "Thanks Received") * 25)

    If you have many posts, but have neither given nor received thanks, I think it says something about you!

    Not too serious, but a couple of members p**s me off with their attitude. I have the idea that a good number of others ignore them as well.
    Last edited by Philip M; 06-01-2008 at 08:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    I should have said Number of Posts / (("Thanks Given" + "Thanks Received") * 25)
    instead of computing I prefer to evaluate in my heuristic way.

    If you have many posts, but have neither given nor received thanks, I think it says something about you!

    Not too serious, but a couple of members p**s me off with their attitude. I have the idea that a good number of others ignore them as well.
    I'm more concern about negative reputation then missing thanks.

    regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip M View Post
    Some of the latter category concern me. There are at least two people who regularly ask questions in the JavaScript forum, in one case with over 500 posts and the other over 200, who have given 0 thanks. One of them at least is a professional web developer.
    I'd say, that's kinda uniqueness, just like some one with 10000+ posts, or someone with 100+ reps.. etc...
    One with 500+ posts and never tempted to give/receive any thanks
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