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    Home network - file sharing doesn't work

    I have a brand new computer (which has Windows XP Professional) which I've gotten connected to our home network and to the internet. Everything seems to work fine on it except for file sharing across the network.

    I have made sure that for each drive letter and folder, file sharing is turned on. The Windows firewall is turned off (I'm not sure what that Exceptions tab does for you, but I un-checked all those options).

    I have Panda Platinum Internet Security 2006 on this computer (different version of Panda on a second computer, but both firewall settings for Panda are setup the same way). I disabled Panda on two of the computers to see if Panda might be causing the problem, but the two computers still can't see each other's files. BTW, the other computer has XP Home Edition.

    I'm far from being a network guru, but I've been through every check I can think of and still can't get file sharing to work. Could someone offer some assistance? Thanks.
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    What's the actual error?

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    The error is that when I open up Windows Explorer on either computer, only the files for that computer show up.

    One thing I did notice after running the Network Setup Wizard several times on the new computer is that when I go to Network Connections, nothing shows up in the Details section except System Folder. The second computer shows:

    Local Area Connection
    LAN or High-Speed Internet
    NETGEAR ..... etc.

    That says to me that somehow the network isn't really getting setup on the new computer. I'm at a loss as to what to do.
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    well have you set IP addresses for then LAN adaptor on each computer? If your network router has DHCP it'll do this automatically but if not then you'll have to specify these. Try pinging one computer from the other using the command prompt (ping 192.168.0.1) for example to see whether the other computer does let connections from the other computer.

    If you receive data from the other computer and vice versa, then it's a config problem not a connection problem seeing as you would be able to connect to the other pc.

    Have you made sure that your network shares aren't hidden (with a $)?

    BTW what are you trying to do under network connections? there won't be any new connections in there once the network wizard has finished. Do you know the computer names for each computer?

    When setting up home networks I don't use the network wizard...I find that if you set the IP address for your lan adaptor on each computer, config shared drives/folders, permissions and firewall yourself then you'll have less problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weazel
    well have you set IP addresses for then LAN adaptor on each computer? If your network router has DHCP it'll do this automatically but if not then you'll have to specify these. Try pinging one computer from the other using the command prompt (ping 192.168.0.1) for example to see whether the other computer does let connections from the other computer.
    Whew! Lot of information here for a networking newbie. OK, my new computer (192.168.1.104) is able to ping the old computer (192.168.1.101). However, the old computer times out when it tries to ping the new computer.

    Have you made sure that your network shares aren't hidden (with a $)?
    How do I do that?

    BTW what are you trying to do under network connections? there won't be any new connections in there once the network wizard has finished. Do you know the computer names for each computer?
    The name for the old computer is Pat1 and the name for the new computer is PatNew.

    When you say there won't be any new connections in there once the network wizard has finished, what do you mean?

    When setting up home networks I don't use the network wizard...I find that if you set the IP address for your lan adaptor on each computer, config shared drives/folders, permissions and firewall yourself then you'll have less problems.
    Um, that might work for someone who's knowledgeable about setting up a network manually. I need stuff like Networking Wizards, a.k.a. Networking For Dummies (like me!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinyl-junkie
    Everything seems to work fine on it except for file sharing across the network.
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    The error is that when I open up Windows Explorer on either computer, only the files for that computer show up.
    Have you tried mapping a network drive?

    Double click My Computer
    Go to Tools/Map Network Drive and enter the address of the shared drive of the other computer.
    i.e.
    Folder: \\other_computer_name\drive_name

    If all goes well a window will open with the contents of the other computers' drive. Also you will see the drive listed as a netword drive in 'My Computer'

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    That doesn't work. It won't let me type a name into the folder box, and when I try to browse for files on the other computer, they're not there, I think for the same mysterious reason that I can't see them in Windows Explorer.

    FWIW, I changed the folder options to show all the hidden files. I'm at my wit's end with this.
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    Have you tried going to start > run and typing in \\oldcomputername\drive_name from the new pc and vice versa? How is the drive sharing set up?

    When I said about the disk might be set as a hidden network drive, I meant if the drives called c$, then drive c won't be shown if you go to windows explorer and type in \\computer_name. to access it you'd have to go to \\computer_name\c$.

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    Hallelujah! That works! Now, is that the only way I will ever be able to access files on the other computer? There must be a better way. If there isn't though, I could live with it the way it is I suppose.
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    so the drive was hidden? if it was, create a new share for the drive by right hand clicking on the drive in my computer, going to to sharing then new share. create a new share like c or whatever. You can, as aforesaid, map network drives. I don't know why it wouldn't let you type in the box however, it always lets me do it here. I assign like J: to \\oneothercomputerhere\j so I don't get the drives mixed up between computers.

    You can create a shortcut to it on the desktop etc. If both computers have the same workgroup, when you go to my workgroups and select the workgroup, you should be able to see both computers.

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    Sorry, but I don't see what you're talking about. When I go through Windows Explorer, click on My Documents for example, I click on Properties, go to the Sharing tab where it has a section called Network sharing and security. Both check boxes are checked - Share this folder on the network and Allow users to change my files (yeah, I know that last one is potentially a security risk, but this is a home network, not Fort Knox). Anyway, where do I go to do this New Sharing thing you mentioned?
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    Well all folders and drives that you've decided to share will be shown if you go to \\computername (just \\computername). You can share the whole drive and then map it if you want so instead of \\computername\c you just type in say G:\ into run to access it etc. You can also do this with folders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinyl-junkie
    Hallelujah! That works! Now, is that the only way I will ever be able to access files on the other computer? There must be a better way. If there isn't though, I could live with it the way it is I suppose.
    You have a conflict... its a software issue. Ive never thought of using 'run' to test a network, except ping... i'd like to know the relationship between com(mand) and windows to understand this.

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    Well, I've messed with this thing every way I know how. Nothing seems to work at the moment except doing the computer name thing in Windows Explorer. I agree with you that there is some sort of software conflict. I just don't know what that conflict could be.

    It isn't absolutely critical that I solve this issue. The important thing is that I was able to find a way to get to the files on the other computer so I can copy them over to my new computer. Once I have everything copied that I need, I will probably use the old computer as a file backup repository.

    Thanks to everyone who helped me. It is much appreciated.
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    Just a follow-up on this thread. I had someone at work suggest that I run the Network Wizard again on my computers and give them a different network name to the one I was using. That seems to have done the trick because I can now see all the files on the other computers. Don't know why everything else didn't work but hey, I'm not complaining.

    Thanks to everyone who offered some assistance in solving this problem.
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