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    Installing Fedora For the first time

    Hey there. I have decided to give installing linux a go, becuase I have been programming in PHP for so long, and Id like to be able to make use of some of the useful PHP stuff available only in linux. (eg: stream_set_timeout() and the ticks() feature).

    I am also interested just as a general learning curve, and as such I want to set up my system with dual boot, so that I can still run windows aswell.

    I am downloading the ISO files at the moment, Its going to be another 2-3 hours becuase Im downloading all 4 at once, and + im going to leave the download going over night... Anyway, enough babble.

    Im just basically looking for some help that I can use when I install... I know I wil have to burn 4 disks, I already have a second partition on my HD of 55GB (althhough it will need formatting (filesystem? will the fedora CD format for me?))

    but more than anything, its essential that nothing goes wrong (should I make backups of my important windows files?), or if it does go wrong that I will easily be able to re-install windows again (I have all my drivers and a disk so I guess it would be ok?)...

    Sorry for this post, i have tried to find documentation on google but without much luck, well, not documentation that I understand properly.

    Thanks for your time
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    Matt,

    I think if you've aready got your disk split into two partitions, just when you set up Fedora it *should* (i've downloaded the ISOs, just not installed it), ask what partition to use and then sort out the dual boot itself - I think.

    Jamie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by missing-score
    should I make backups of my important windows files?
    Oh My yes

    Chances are everything will be fine but you are bonkers if you do not at least backup your data.

    The fedora installer will offer to test your boot media ... it takes a while but do it !!!

    Fedora installer will offer you custom or automatic disk partitioning , choose automatic BUT review the partitioning before committing , make sure your windows partition is still exactly that , if not go back and try manual.

    Fedora will offer to install the grub bootloader for you (go for the defaults it suggests) , let it, it will automatically see and include your windows XP partition in the boot menu .
    If the installer offers the option of creating a boot floppy accept it (good in emergencies)


    [Recovery]
    Mostly the fedora installer is very good and rarely causes issues , however IF the worst happens and you can no longer boot into windows (or anything) , boot from you XP disk , select the option to use the recovery console (first 'R') , when you get to a command prompt run
    fixmbr
    fixboot

    & then reboot

    [I like]
    On a dual boot system to also create a FAT32 partition for shared storage (fedora can read but not write to NTFS (and NTFS write support is not quite stable in linux yet)) this allows you to for instance share your thunderbird mail between both OS's etc.
    resistance is...

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    Ok, I have fedora running

    I have a few problems/questions...

    1. Whenever I log on it says "cannot find internet address for localhost" or something like that.

    2. I am using an Air Plus DWL G520+ wireless PCI adapter for my internet, is there any way I can set this up so that I can access the internet from Fedora?

    3. Can I change it so that Windows is the default OS rather than Fedora, or would I have had to do that when I set it up. Main reason being, until I get the internet working and start getting to grips with Linux im going to be using mostly windows, and the 2 seconds I have to select it is easily missable

    Just in case it makes any difference, Im running a 64bit distro (AMD 64 3200+ processor).

    Thanks again

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    I am still having problems setting up any kind of internet connection... I have been searching for ages on google trying to locate somthing that will get my card working but I haven't had any luck yet.

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    First is the internet you can't connect to through wireless? What if you connect via an ethernet card?

    You can either manually change your grub / lilo config file to change your default boot option or there might be something graphical in fedora to do that (I don't use fedora so I wouldn't know.) You can post your grub / lilo config file and I'll have a look at it. Search for it run :
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    locate grub.config
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    locate lilo.config

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    First off welcome to the world of Fedora. Second of all this site is very good for finding info on fedora.

    http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/index.php

    Also there are many installation guides/notes written by other users of Fedora. These come in very handy for setting up alot of miscellaneous things. This one is pretty good.

    http://stanton-finley.net/fedora_cor...ion_notes.html

    In my own experience I've always found it is much easier and more convenient to install Linux on a seperate secondary hard drive (assuming you are still wanting to use windows). Then just let the boot loader install itself on the main (windows) hard drive master boot record. Grub is the best and the default to use.
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    Thanks squirellplaying for the information, I have changed the boot order ... Im not usually to bad once I know what to edit or what a command does.

    Also, thanks spookster for the links... I have posted my problem on the forums there, but the second link for installing various common applications I found very useful .

    Oh, and it was also thanks to you (spookster), that I am using fedora in the first place, as I noticed the link in your signature

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    Quote Originally Posted by missing-score
    Oh, and it was also thanks to you (spookster), that I am using fedora in the first place, as I noticed the link in your signature
    One down, umpteen billion more microsoft users to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spookster
    One down, umpteen billion more microsoft users to go.
    The question is, what do you intend to do with users of other non-MS OSes?

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    If I know spookster, they wont exist for much longer

    Edit: the people using these os' that is

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    It's all part of my master plan.

    Also if you are not yet comfortable working with IP tables or using the existing built in GUI for Fedora's firewall there is a nice little GUI firewall that works with fedora called Firestarter.

    http://www.fs-security.com/

    It's also so nice not having to worry about running antivirus software.
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    Thanks once again

    Unfortunatley I dont have internet to use it with yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by missing-score
    Thanks once again

    Unfortunatley I dont have internet to use it with yet
    Go check your thread at fedoraforums. You probably just need to set up your madwifi driver. Why it's always mad I don't know.
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    Already I am, Im looking through the links you gave me trying to soak up some knowledge (although the toolkit links in the first thread are broken ), anyway, if have anymore specific questions ill reply on fedoraforums.com

    Its probably mad becuase people are always trying to set it up...


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