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    Windows XP on Mini ITX for industry use

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    I am currently working on a project where I require PC based control to control a machine. I have chosen to use PC based control, and will probably opt for Windows XP Professional. I was just wondering if you could tell me how to install windows XP without it installing all the little programs associated with it, like notepad and windows media player etc. I want this as I want to install XP on a Flash IDE card if possible, so require minimum installation space. Also, incase a program crashes and disturbs my control of the program I want to focus on. Pretty much I want XP to load, and straight away load into the program I will write, either in C or Visual Basic. I have seen other programs, like 3rd party defrag tools, that run before any of the desktop is loaded, before anything in the start menu has loaded etc. This is what I really want, as the OS loads and doesnt load anything other than the drivers for the PC and say Visual Basic.

    Is there an installation extension to do this, or some way to achieve this?

    Any help would be appriciated.
    I plan on using a small PC, something like a Mini ITX board, probably have 512 of ram, hopefully running off a IDE flash card as the hard drive, with a VIA 1ghz processor or something similar.

    Also - is it best to install things like SP2 for something like this? It wont be connected to the internet or anything, it will be a stand alone system, on a factory floor.

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    I would install XP as normal, and then remove everything which doesnt need to be installed via the add/remove windows components menu under the control panel. Also, I wouldnt bother installing SP2, as it is focused on internet based security.

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    You can rip out pretty much everything you don't need from Windows if you wish. A few resources that might help:

    - <http://www.vorck.com/remove-ie.html> (great resource, not only for removing iew)
    - <http://nuhi.msfn.org/nlite.html>
    - <http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/>

    As for SP2, I'd say you should use it unless it causes problems. It's mostly an a update and not an addition - it replaces earlier components with more secure ones for the most part.
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    OK Weaz

    I was thinking the same thing Weaz. But, I do think when you install XP there is an option to do a minimal install. Either that or there is a way to confirm each option as it is about to be installed. I'm still checking. One of my geek buddies should know...
    Last edited by craigt56; 03-22-2005 at 05:57 PM.

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    Thanks everyone,

    That would be very cool if you could find out craigt56.
    I sure there should be an option on install, but its not just a standard option to click to do a minimal install, as I have installed XP hundreds of times and never seen it. There must be a extension or key to press at some stage or something.

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    WanaGo: Microsoft, unlike most other companies, not only doesn't protect it's install CDs but instead in fact encourages changing them, and provides some tools for doing so - WinPE. BartPE (the third link I gave you) is similar to WinPE but also acts as a live CD. nLite (the second link I gave you) is a Windows installation customiser that can also help a bit. The best way to do a custom install of Windows is through one such install customisation tool.
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    Load then delete

    What my pals been telling me is to install the OS then knock off the stuff you don't want. A customized install is a major pain in the running license. Creating a custom install really only makes sense if you need to install on a lot of computers. Map out what you don't need, make sure the programs you want to get rid of aren't hooked deep into the OS, make a list of what must go, then after loading the OS go down your list.

    If you need to do a lot of computers use one of the customization programs mentioned above.

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    What type of system is it you intend to control? (inputs/outputs, analog/digital etc).

    I have a link somewhere to a similar system to the one you describe only using windows 98 - i'll try and remember where I saved it and post it here!

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    http://www.embeddingwindows.com/
    http://www.litepc.com/

    taken from this thread: http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=50717
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    Sweens

    You put some good references in here. You've given me a way around one heck of a situation. My geek friends sometimes over think things. Thanks.


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